Talk:Malay diaspora

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Does this article refer to the Malay race or the Malays (ethnic group). Please clarify. (Caniago 03:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC))[reply]

This article is referred to Malays (ethnic group). --Fantastic4boy 05:17, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article are lack of source and reference. It more like a pointless topic with untruth of the number of overseas malays.

"This article is referred to Malays (ethnic group)." The problem with that is that the Cocos Malays and Cape Malays are within the broader super-ethnic or racial grouping. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 05:26, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Cocos Malays are ethnic Malays, aren't they? --120.146.159.239 (talk) 16:30, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Caniago - the contents of the article suggest Malay is loosely defined - the stats shown are not specifically regarding the Malays (ethnic group) as the Javanese, for example, clearly don't belong in that. The Javanese would however fall into the concept of a Malay race. I've broadened the stated scope of the article to include all - please change this if appropriate to a more refined definition, but use reliable sources and no contradictions (ie, don't tell us that Cape Malays are "ethnic Malays" from Java). --Merbabu (talk) 01:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Malay race?

I see there was a similar discussion above: this article currently takes the scope of Malay race, which as explained at that article, is a very outdated concept. I think the article scope should be refined to just Malays (ethnic group), which is what one expects after reading the title. To get some actual discussion, I'll ping some people who have shown interest in the article recently: @Ahalgao and Sayurasem: Cremastra (u — c) 22:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If the scope is narrowed to the Malay ethnic group, most of the data would be removed.

Malays in South Africa, Sri Lanka, the Cocos Islands, and many other regions are not part of the Malay ethnic diaspora, but are descendants of modern Indonesians (Malay race), who mostly come from Java and Sulawesi. Sayurasem (talk) 01:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps what we're looking for then is "Malaysian diaspora", which would go by nationality, rather than ethnicity? I'm just somewhat averse to titling an article based on an idea that's been outdated and incorrect for a century. Cremastra (u — c) 01:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, Malaysian diaspora already exists, so how is this article different from that one? Colour me bewildered. Cremastra (u — c) 20:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]