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Wrong link

In the second paragraph of "Modern Iraq" it states, " In 1959, Abdel-Wahab al-Saadi led an uprising in Mosul against Qasim." This cannot be correct because it links to the Iraqi General Abdel-Wahab al-Saadi who was only born in 1963. The link should instead be changed to the similarly named Abd al-Wahab al-Shawaf the actual leader of the 1959 Mosul uprising. OneMoron (talk) 03:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks. CMD (talk) 03:58, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Governorates

It recently became 19 as halabja has been recognized as a governorate..

Got a cite for that ?---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:33, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

just a correction regarding the establishing if iraq:

The first era - or the first Iraqi kingdom, led by Kings Faisal I and Ghazi I - was the period of establishing the Iraqi state and its infrastructure. It was characterized by a national tendency and the ambition to build a state that would host the capital of the Caliphate after its fall in Turkey, competing with the royal family in Egypt and the Saudi family in the Hijaz. Among the goals of this state was to restore unity with the Arab states that had separated from the Ottoman Empire, from which modern, incompletely independent states were formed. King Faisal I was known for his sound mind, diplomacy, and his avoidance of harsh positions in his domestic and foreign policy, especially with the British. However, the national and more stringent orientations of King Ghazi I (1933-1939), and then the ministry of Rashid Ali al-Gaylani in 1941, which opposed the British expansion, had the widest impact and resonance on the Iraqi street, which was greatly frustrated when the British army entered and overthrew the government in order to implement the strategies of World War II in Iraq and the region. Androm saptou (talk) 23:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a another correction regarding the establishing of iraq

The Kingdom of Iraq was established as a result of the repercussions of the Great Arab Revolt, where Sharif Hussein bin Ali, the father of Prince Faisal, was harboring the ambition of the Arab royal families in the region to assume leadership of the Arab state and transfer the caliphate system that had collapsed in Istanbul to one of the competing Arab families: the Saudi family in Najd and the Hijaz, as it was the ruling family in the Islamic holy lands of Mecca and Medina, the Hashemite family, the leader of the Great Arab Revolt in the north of the Arabian Peninsula, the Levant and Iraq, and the ruling family from the lineage of Muhammad Ali in Egypt. Androm saptou (talk) 23:04, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'Imperial Aramaic'?

The script used in the footnote for the name of the country (ܥܝܪܐܩ) is Syriac, not 'Imperial Aramaic' as the text claims. Imperial Aramaic looks much more like Hebrew (because the modern Hebrew script is descended from it and has changed little): assuming the same pronunciation and orthography as in the Syriac version, it would look like this: 𐡏𐡉𐡓𐡀𐡒. I don't know whether the form written in the Syriac script in the text is Classical Syriac, modern Suret or both; and I doubt that the name is even attested in texts from the time when Imperial Aramaic was used. In any case, either the script or the description is incorrect and needs to be replaced. The question is which language should be used. If the idea is to represent contemporary Aramaic speakers in Iraq, Imperial Aramaic seems less suitable than the other options - Classical Syriac at least remains in use as a liturgical language, and Suret is still spoken. If I've got this correctly, Suret (assuming that it is a single language including both the Assyrian and Chaldean dialects) is the only or at least by far the most common Neo-Aramaic variety still used in Iraq, so it might be an adequate representative. 62.73.72.3 (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add content in Culture section

Hello, I intend to add the following to the "Culture" section of the Iraq article within the next 24 hours, unless there are any objections or concerns:

,,In May 2024, Dadvan Yousuf, a Kurdish-Iraqi individual became the first Iraqi to summit Mount Everest, marking a notable achievement in Iraq's modern history.[1]https://almasra.iq/83728/ This accomplishment, which took place during his first mountaineering expedition, reflects the increasing participation of Iraqis in international sports, an area historically less associated with the country."[2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q6i9J_Dg5g

WP:Notability applies and reference is Poland culture section, naming Wanda Rutkiewicz and other notable polish people.

Please feel free to share any feedback or concerns. Thanks! Ayohama (talk) 19:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I don't think it's important because the page is about Iraq, not someone who raised the Kurdistan Region flag. Adorken (talk) 20:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, @Adorken, While the individual is from the Kurdistan Region, which is an autonomous part of Iraq, the achievement itself is a significant contribution to Iraq’s modern history. As part of Iraq, the Kurdish community's accomplishments are relevant to the country’s cultural narrative. I believe this inclusion aligns with the article’s focus on Iraq’s broader history and culture. Ayohama (talk) 20:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Adorken, Just made the edit. The Kurdistan Region is part of Iraq, and the everest achievement is a milestone for the country. This aligns with the article’s focus on Iraq’s diverse history. Hope we can collaborate constructively! I made sure the short text aligns with WP:Notability & WP:PROPORTION - also, the entire article has multiple references to kurds or the Kurdistan region, as you can see an image of Empire World in Erbil under section "Economy" Ayohama (talk) 06:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Addition is WP:UNDUE -Caution should be taken to ensure that the sections are not simply a listing of names or mini biographies of individuals accomplishments.

pls review Wikipedia:Consensus#By soliciting outside opinions Moxy🍁 06:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Moxy, I understand your concern about WP:UNDUE, but the inclusion of notable achievements in the culture section is common practice in many country articles, such as those for Argentina, Poland, and Brazil. These sections highlight significant milestones in the country's modern history and culture.

I’d appreciate your input on how we can frame this in a balanced way. Thanks! Ayohama (talk) 06:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I dont see how this is nothing more then an individuals accomplishment and has almost no historical reference to the country. Moxy🍁 06:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I would say it's an Iraqi individual's accomplishment, which holds historical significance as it is the first of its kind for the country Ayohama (talk) 07:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COI? Moxy🍁 07:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, matter fact, I intended to work on multiple Country articles but now I have to read a bit more before considering that Ayohama (talk) 07:07, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Join us at Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries - Articles may be best modeled on the layout of existing WP:FA articles (See: Canada, Japan and Australia). - We have a guide essay starting at WP:COUNTRYLEAD. Moxy🍁 07:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Ayohama (talk) 07:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ayohama has been blocked as a sockpuppet: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lustigermutiger21. Please note they have also shown an interest in Iraq, Mount Everest, and Dadvan Yousuf across several of their sockpuppet accounts. – notwally (talk) 23:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]