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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
[edit]The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
[edit]- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
[edit]- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
[edit]Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
[edit]- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
[edit]- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
[edit]- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
Admin instructions
[edit]When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
[edit]- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
[edit]If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 18:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 632 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
[edit]Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:People associated with the Jack Abramoff scandals to Category:People associated with the Jack Abramoff controversies – C2D: per RM. Missed this subcat when I initially nominated Category:Jack Abramoff controversies. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 18:35, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pages using NF with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using NFLD with unknown parameters – C2D: RM Skarmory (talk • contribs) 18:28, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Stephen-Bell family to Category:Stephen–Bell family – C2A: Changing hyphen to en-dash, which we use when it's two related families and not a hyphenated name. Mike Selinker (talk) 04:50, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Cryer-Reeves family to Category:Cryer–Reeves family
- Category:Cripps-Appiah-Edun family to Category:Cripps–Appiah–Edun family
- Category:Beaubien-Casgrain family to Category:Beaubien–Casgrain family
- Category:Teck-Cambridge family to Category:Teck–Cambridge family
- Category:Polidori-Rossetti family to Category:Polidori–Rossetti family
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class military history articles by task force to Category:Category-Class military history pages by task force – C2C: Code just requires reverting this edit; if the implementer can do that I would appreciate it :) Happy to do it myself, otherwise. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 03:15, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Disambig-Class military history articles by task force to Category:Disambig-Class military history pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:Draft-Class military history articles by task force to Category:Draft-Class military history pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:File-Class military history articles by task force to Category:File-Class military history pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:FM-Class military history articles by task force to Category:FM-Class military history pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:NA-Class military history articles by task force to Category:NA-Class military history pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:Portal-Class military history articles by task force to Category:Portal-Class military history pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:Project-Class military history articles by task force to Category:Project-Class military history pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:Template-Class military history articles by task force to Category:Template-Class military history pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:Unassessed-Class military history articles by task force to Category:Unassessed-Class military history pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:NA-Class Aesthetics articles to Category:NA-Class Aesthetics pages – C2C: Code is at Module:WikiProject banner#L-345 (and following lines) BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 02:44, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:NA-Class Cedar Fair Entertainment Company articles to Category:NA-Class Cedar Fair Entertainment Company pages
- REDIRECT Category:NA-Class Israeli cinema articles to Category:NA-Class Israeli cinema pages
- REDIRECT Category:NA-Class Mexican cinema articles to Category:NA-Class Mexican cinema pages
- Category:Images of Holyland tourism posters to Category:Images of Holy Land tourism posters – C2B: To match Holy Land and common English usage. Wikiacc (¶) 02:26, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Politicians from Northern Region, Ghana to Category:Politicians from Northern Region (Ghana) – C2B: Per Northern Region (Ghana) User:Namiba 01:57, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the Order of Luthuli to Category:Recipients of the Order of Luthuli – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Orders (South Korea) to Category:Orders of South Korea – C2B: Misuse of disambiguation. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:British Columbia music to Category:Music of British Columbia – C2C: Also C2D. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:11, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pre University colleges in Karnataka to Category:Pre-university colleges in Karnataka – C2A: Compare Pre-university course. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Śródmieście Południowe to Category:South Downtown, Warsaw – C2D: per South Downtown, Warsaw. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:54, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Armbrust, we have Category:Śródmieście, Warsaw, Category:Neighbourhoods of Śródmieście, Warsaw and Category:Śródmieście Północne so arguably this fails C2C. TSventon (talk) 18:46, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People of the War on Terror to Category:People of the war on terror – C2B: parent is War on terror SMasonGarrison 16:45, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chairmen of Committees of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly to Category:Chairpersons of Committees of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly – C2C: parent is Chairpersons by organization SMasonGarrison 15:29, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chairs of the Motion Picture Association to Category:Chairpersons of the Motion Picture Association – C2C: parent is Chairpersons by organization SMasonGarrison 15:29, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Tajik SCNS chairmen to Category:Chairpersons of State Committee for National Security (Tajikistan) – C2C: parent is Chairpersons by organization and norm is Chairpersons of FOO and parent is State Committee for National Security (Tajikistan) SMasonGarrison 15:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chairmen of the Board of HM Customs and Excise to Category:Chairpersons of the Board of HM Customs and Excise – C2C: parent is Chairpersons by organization SMasonGarrison 15:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chairmen of Committees of the Western Australian Legislative Council to Category:Chairpersons of Committees of the Western Australian Legislative Council – C2C: parent is Chairpersons by organization SMasonGarrison 15:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chairmen of the United States Atomic Energy Commission to Category:Chairpersons of the United States Atomic Energy Commission – C2C: parent is Chairpersons by organization SMasonGarrison 15:25, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chairmen of County Councils of Norway to Category:Chairpersons of County Councils of Norway – C2C: parent is Chairpersons by organization SMasonGarrison 15:25, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chairmen of the Somali National Movement to Category:Chairpersons of the Somali National Movement – C2C: parent is Chairpersons by organization SMasonGarrison 15:23, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Recipients of the Order of Saint Stanislaus (Russian) to Category:Recipients of the Order of Saint Stanislaus (House of Romanov) – C2D. Gjs238 (talk) 13:39, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Syanno District to Category:People from Syanno district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:14, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Svislach District to Category:People from Svislach district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Svyetlahorsk District to Category:People from Svyetlahorsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Stolin District to Category:People from Stolin district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Smarhon District to Category:People from Smarhon district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Slonim District to Category:People from Slonim district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Slawharad District to Category:People from Slawharad district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:12, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Shumilina District to Category:People from Shumilina district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:12, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Shklow District to Category:People from Shklow district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:12, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Shchuchyn District to Category:People from Shchuchyn district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:12, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Sharkawshchyna District to Category:People from Sharkawshchyna district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:12, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Rechytsa District to Category:People from Rechytsa district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Rasony District to Category:People from Rasony district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Rahachow District to Category:People from Rahachow district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Pruzhany District to Category:People from Pruzhany district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:10, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Polotsk District to Category:People from Polotsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Pinsk District to Category:People from Pinsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Pyetrykaw District to Category:People from Pyetrykaw district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Pastavy District to Category:People from Pastavy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Orsha District to Category:People from Orsha district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Novogrudok District to Category:People from Novogrudok district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Mstsislaw District to Category:People from Mstsislaw district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Mogilev District to Category:People from Mogilev district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Mazyr District to Category:People from Mazyr district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:07, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Masty District to Category:People from Masty district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:07, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Malaryta District to Category:People from Malaryta district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Lyakhavichy District to Category:People from Lyakhavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Luninyets District to Category:People from Luninyets district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Lyozna District to Category:People from Lyozna district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Lida District to Category:People from Lida district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Lyepyel District to Category:People from Lyepyel district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Dinosaur sculptures to Category:Sculptures of dinosaurs – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:20, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Liberato albums to Category:Liberato (singer) albums – C2D: per article at Liberato (singer) StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 03:29, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Cornish Christian missionaries to Category:Christian missionaries from Cornwall – C2C: Siblings in Category:People from Cornwall by occupation, all follow the parent of Category:Explorers from Cornwall SMasonGarrison 02:19, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by David Sardy to Category:Films scored by Dave Sardy – C2D. DoubleCross (‡) 22:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Works by David Sardy to Category:Works by Dave Sardy - C2D. DoubleCross (‡) 22:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Paris Saint-Germain Féminine seasons to Category:Paris Saint-Germain FC (women) seasons – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:12, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:MLS NEXT Pro stadiums to Category:MLS Next Pro stadiums – C2C per Category:MLS Next Pro and C2D per MLS Next Pro. BLAIXX 16:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Melanesia Cup to Category:MSG Prime Minister's Cup – C2D: per MSG Prime Minister's Cup. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:American Masters Athlete that competed in Olympics to Category:American Olympic masters athletes – C2A: Title case, grammar Habst (talk) 13:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- The proposed title gives the impression that they were masters while they were at the Olympics or competed in an Olympic masters competition, which is not the case – they have been at the Olympics for any NOC and they are American master athletes, which probably is reason for deletion per WP:NONDEF. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 15:04, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Televisions series set during the Indian Rebellion of 1857 to Category:Television series set during the Indian Rebellion of 1857 – C2C; should be Television series for consistency. MimirIsSmart (talk) 12:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:2024–25 European winter to Category:2025 disasters in Europe – C2F: Also double-check other parents. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Northwest Conference (1902–1925) to Category:Northwest Conference (1908–1925) – The base article has been uncontroversially split (C2D: Consistency with main article's name) to Northwest Intercollegiate Athletic Association (1902-1907) and Northwest Conference (1908–1925) based on official citation(s) showing distinction between the earlier conference and the later one. Please move everything within to the new category (category currently contains no articles for 1902–1907, so a category for that will be done separately).— Preceding unsigned comment added by PK-WIKI (talk • contribs)
- Category:Northwest Conference (1902–1925) football to Category:Northwest Conference (1908–1925) football – C2D Jweiss11 (talk) 19:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Northwest Conference (1902–1925) football seasons to Category:Northwest Conference (1908–1925) football seasons – C2D Jweiss11 (talk) 19:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Northwest Conference (1902–1925) football champion seasons to Category:Northwest Conference (1908–1925) champion football seasons – C2D Jweiss11 (talk) 19:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Northwest Conference (1902–1925) football standings templates to Category:Northwest Conference (1908–1925) football standings templates – C2D Jweiss11 (talk) 19:50, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- @PK-WIKI: The only content currently is another category, do you want to move it under the current name?--Ymblanter (talk) 06:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter I see a tree of nested categories, all saying "(1902–1925)". They should all be changed to "(1908–1925)" per the changed article title. Thank you, my mistake if I didn't nominate the correct categories or all of the needed ones. PK-WIKI (talk) 06:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Please nominate them now, it is more convenient to move them all together. Ymblanter (talk) 06:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, I've added the appropriate subcategories here. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:45, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Great, thanks. Ymblanter (talk) 22:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, I've added the appropriate subcategories here. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:45, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Please nominate them now, it is more convenient to move them all together. Ymblanter (talk) 06:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Opposed requests
[edit]- Category:United Kingdom in World War I to Category:United Kingdom during the First World War – C2A. British version of "World War I" is "First World War". There is a parent category, British Empire in World War I, but I'm not sure of the "reach" the British naming. I also changed the preposition, so maybe not speedy. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Breaks consistency with Category:World War I by country. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- It does, but there are many other such breaks, see for instance Category:Men's association football by country, and its child categories Category:Men's soccer in Australia and Category:Men's soccer in the United States.
- It's a reality that sometimes one guideline conflicts with another. This request follows C2A: Differences between British and American spelling. HandsomeFella (talk) 17:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Breaks consistency with Category:World War I by country. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
[edit]- Category:Indigenous leaders in South America to Category:Indigenous leaders of South America – C2C: parent is "Indigenous leaders of the Americas", which uses "of" SMasonGarrison 18:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both parents? Indigenous people of South America also uses of SMasonGarrison 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right. There is Category:Indigenous leaders in Canada. I guess "in" is technically more correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm. That's a good point. I don't have strong opinions about which is used. Should we take this to full to see if someone does? SMasonGarrison 19:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right. There is Category:Indigenous leaders in Canada. I guess "in" is technically more correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both parents? Indigenous people of South America also uses of SMasonGarrison 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- The parent category has been nominated for renaming in the opposite direction, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_December_29#Category:Indigenous_leaders_of_the_Americas. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Possibly fictional pirates to Category:Pirates whose existence is disputed – C2C: parent is People whose existence is disputed SMasonGarrison 06:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe SMasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe SMasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Stainton, south Cumbria to Category:Stainton, Westmorland and Furness – C2D: Match Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose ambiguous with Stainton, Dacre, see User talk:Hey man im josh#Stainton. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Postpone until we know the result of the proposed move of Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Grutness...wha? 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
[edit]- Category:Events about intersex to Category:Intersex-related events – C2C: Category:Intersex-related works. LIrala (talk) 04:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @LIrala: it should rather become Category:Intersex events per e.g. Category:Gay events and Category:Transgender events. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LIrala: it should rather become Category:Intersex events per e.g. Category:Gay events and Category:Transgender events. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State of Palestine to Category:Palestine (over disambiguation) and subcategories – C2D per Palestine following the move of the country article at this RM. Note that several of the targets are filled by disambiguation pages from when Palestine was occupied by what is now at Palestine (disambiguation). Timrollpickering (talk) 23:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- This should probably go to full discussion. Per WP:C2D:
it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator
. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy per above. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 16:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- This should probably go to full discussion. Per WP:C2D:
- Moved to full discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 9#Palestine. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Ceylon to Category:Chief secretaries of Ceylon – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 07:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Sierra Leone to Category:Colonial secretaries of Sierra Leone
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Cyprus to Category:Colonial secretaries of Cyprus
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Fiji to Category:Colonial secretaries of Fiji
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Gibraltar to Category:Colonial secretaries of Gibraltar
- Category:Chief Secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony) to Category:Chief secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony)
- Category:Chief Secretaries for Ireland to Category:Chief secretaries for Ireland
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Kenya to Category:Chief secretaries of Kenya
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Mauritius to Category:Colonial secretaries of Mauritius
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of New South Wales to Category:Colonial secretaries of New South Wales
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of New Zealand to Category:Colonial secretaries of New Zealand
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Nigeria to Category:Chief secretaries of Nigeria
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Northern Rhodesia to Category:Chief secretaries of Northern Rhodesia
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Palestine to Category:Chief secretaries of Palestine
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Singapore to Category:Chief secretaries of Singapore
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Tasmania to Category:Colonial secretaries of Tasmania
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Transjordan to Category:Chief secretaries of Transjordan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Western Australia to Category:Colonial secretaries of Western Australia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- oppose as per MOS:JOBTITLES They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well Gnangarra 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- The job titles are in plural, and we do not capitalize in such cases (see: "When a formal title for a specific entity... is not plural..."). Similar categories have also been moved to use lowercase based on this (e.g., Category:Vice presidents of the United States, categories under Category:Defense ministers by country, categories under Category:Governors-general, and categories under Category:Deputy prime ministers; see also articles like List of secretaries of state of the United States, List of secretaries general of the Western European Union, etc.) WikiEditor50 (talk) 17:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiEditor50: are you planning to move these to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, please do WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- oppose as per MOS:JOBTITLES They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well Gnangarra 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Prince Edward Island to Category:Colonial secretaries of Prince Edward Island – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Newfoundland to Category:Colonial secretaries of Newfoundland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Bermuda to Category:Colonial secretaries of Bermuda – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Barbados to Category:Colonial secretaries of Barbados – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of the Bahamas to Category:Colonial secretaries of the Bahamas – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chief Secretaries of British Guiana to Category:Chief secretaries of British Guiana – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Provincial Mayors of Cusco Province to Category:Provincial mayors of Cusco province – C2D: Cusco province. Also C2A with MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Macedonia to Category:Suicides in ancient Macedonia – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Greece to Category:Suicides in ancient Greece – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East – C2A Russian Rocky (talk) 09:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Asia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Asia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Israel to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Israel
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Jordan to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Jordan
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Lebanon to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Lebanon
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Syria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Syria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Turkey to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Turkey
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Europe to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Europe
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Austria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Austria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in France to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in France
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Russia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Russia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United Kingdom to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United Kingdom
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Scotland to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Scotland
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in North America to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in North America
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United States to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United States
- Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Novels set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Films set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East to Category:Sculpture of the ancient Near East
- Category:Ancient near eastern cosmology to Category:Ancient Near Eastern cosmology
- Oppose all needs discussion. Johnbod (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. Johnbod (talk) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- So why don't you discuss it on Talk:Ancient Near East instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (Talk:Ancient Near East#Capitalization)? Here's an excerpt: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"." Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East.
- Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--Russian Rocky (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the Ancient Rome page, Social class in ancient Rome, Patrician (ancient Rome), Timeline of ancient Greece, Category:Wikipedians interested in ancient Rome, Category:Novels set in ancient Rome, Category:Prosopography of ancient Rome, Category:Wars involving ancient Greece, Category:Battles involving ancient Greece, Category:Culture of ancient Greece, and Category:History books about ancient Greece for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Russian Rocky: are you planning to move this to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with InverseHypercube on Talk:Ancient Near East who said the following: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."
- See The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: p. 153: "ancient Near East (noun)" "ancient Near Eastern (adj.)".--Russian Rocky (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Peggy Jay family to Category:Jay-Garnett family - To better summarise the contents as the family is wider than just direct relatives of Peggy Jay. OGBC1992 (talk) 09:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Ymblanter I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. OGBC1992 (talk) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 6. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas to Category:Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas – C2C: parent is Russian military personnel killed in the Russo-Ukrainian War SMasonGarrison 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas is a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas and a grandparent of Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why is Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. SMasonGarrison 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. TSventon (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? SMasonGarrison 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2024 Dec 30. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? SMasonGarrison 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. TSventon (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why is Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. SMasonGarrison 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas is a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas and a grandparent of Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Ready for deletion
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