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Oppressive use of over-emphasis

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This entire guideline is riddled with a truly brow-beating level of misuse of emphasis. I have gone through and cleaned up all instances of this to use {{em}} markup (which resolves to <em>...</em>) instead of bare italics, so that these cases are properly distinguished from purely typographic use of italics (for words-as-words, for work titles, etc.). There is no other MoS page (or other guideline) on the system that is using this much emphasis, in virtually every other sentence. It's just really annoying, as if we think the reader of this page has severe dain bramage and has to be yelled at over and over again. I think that virtually every instance of {{em}} in this page should be removed.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  17:26, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

PS: This diff shows most but not quite all of them (my edit just before that had a couple of them in it, in one section, before I realized it was a page-wide issue).  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  17:31, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hyphens, en dashes, em dashes

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style regarding dashes, including the em dashes used in federal electoral districts. The thread is A worsening MOS:DASH issue (causing mounting WP:CONSISTENT problems). Thank you. Indefatigable (talk) 16:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Participants of this page are invited to participate in a move discussion at Talk:Pelican Lake (Kenora District)#Requested move 18 September 2024. I have opened this division to determine if "([county, municipality, or parish])" is a sufficient disambiguator when the respective [county, municipality, or parish] is the primary topic for its title, or if the disambiguator should be "([county, municipality, or parish], [providence or territory])". Steel1943 (talk) 23:31, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFC regarding the end dates of MP & MLAs terms of office at WP:CANPOL

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I could be wrong and this has been discussed before (i couldn't find a discussion - if so please let me know), but the WP:CANPOL MOS for the end date of a term office for an MP, MLA, MPP who retires/loses. Right now the standard is that their last day in office is when the writ drops (this can be seen in BC's transition guide for the 2024 election here). Saskatchewan seems to have a somewhat similar practice here.

That being said, this isn't how service time is documented the HoC or the Manitoba and Ontario provincial legislatures, (all use the day before election day or election day as members last days in office):

  • HoC: see Louise Charbonneau's profile, who chose to not run for re-election in 2021. Election day Sept. 20, last day in office Sept. 19.
  • Manitoba: see Cris Aglugub (first bio listed), who retired in 2007. Election day May 22, last day in office May 22.
  • Ontario: see Roman Baber's profile, who chose to not run for re-election in 2022. Election day June 2, last day in office June 1.

Haven't been able to track down what all other provinces do.

I get the argument for why the writ drop is an elected official's last day in office, as being the end of a legislature. But when that's not how the HoC or provincial legislatures keep their records this doesn't seem like a standard we should also be following on Wikipedia and is it worth changing for all provinces (+ the HoC) or only the one's whose legislatures list an end date being on/right before election day?


 - Epluribusunumyall (talk) 11:36, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]