Talk:A Place in This World/GA1

GA Review

Passed. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 12:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Medxvo (talk · contribs) 08:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: CatchMe (talk · contribs) 06:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Well-written

"country-music singer" - I don't think the hyphen is necessary.
- Done. Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"She wrote two tracks for her self-titled debut album with Robert Ellis Orrall and Angelo Petraglia" - I first thought that she wrote only two album tracks (that would be impossible for her, lol). Maybe change it to "She collaborated with Robert Ellis Orrall and Angelo Petraglia on two tracks for her self-titled debut album"?
- Done. Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think recording engineer could be linked.
- Done Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Music journalists identified it as a banjo–driven pop song and a sentimental ballad with country and alternative rock influences and a midtempo rhythm" - This is a lot of descriptions at once imo. Prove splitting the midtempo rhythm and banjo-driven things.
- How does it look now? I don't want to separate them completely because they are closely connected. Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - It looks better now!
"and wrote it after contemplating whether she will achieve success one day" - "and wrote it after contemplating whether she would achieve success in her career"?
- Done. Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All Live performances sentences start with "Swift performed" or "she played". Is there any way to change that?
- Replaced one of them with "sang", please tell me if I should replace some others. Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - You could replace one with "It was performed..." instead to not have always the same structure.
    - I was advised to avoid passive voice. Regardless, I tried to switch it up a little and combined two sentences. Medxvo (talk) 09:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      - Oh okay, thanks for the clarification.

Verifiable

"They have retrospectively considered it a weaker track in Swift's discography." - Well, this isn't mentioned in Critical reception nor sourced. The listicles places are low, but "weaker" seems WP:OR.
- Do you have any suggestion to paraphrase it or what should I do? That was the only negative thing that I noticed because they're not criticizing the song specifically, they just placed it in lower rankings. I don't want to remove the sentence completely because that may not be neutral... Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Maybe something like "They have retrospectively placed it in low positions in rankings of Swift's discography"?
    - Done. Medxvo (talk) 09:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Earwig's Copyvio shows Violation unlikely with 17.4% being the highest similarity. Great!
All sources are reliable and relevant.
Spot-check (with numbers as of this revision)
- Ref 2 verifies that the signed to Sony, and ref 3 does the same with Big Machine. Y
- Ref 7 verifies when it was written and the lyrics about "her pursuit of stardom". Y
- Ref 14 verifies that it is a mid-tempo banjo-led ballad. I don't think the writer is saying it inspired Lorde, just that they have the "same searching naivety".
  - Lorde debuted after Swift.... Bradley said that it has the "same searching naivety that made Lorde so striking on first listen ....", I think that's an inspiration but let me know if you have any suggestions to paraphrase it because I can't think of any... Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    - Someone can debut after other and have the same *something* and not be inspired by that; it can be a coincidence too. I believe he just drew a similarity here. "Believed that Lorde explored it similarily in the 2013 single "Tennis Court" comes to mind, perhaps it would be out of the scope...
      - Replaced with "drew similarities between it and that of the music of Lorde". Hope it's a good alternative... Medxvo (talk) 09:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        I did a small change since "it and that of the" looks... awkward imo. But feel free to revert.
- Ref 15 verifies that it is a pop track. Y
- Ref 16 verifies it was written after watching a Faith Hill special and the performance. Y
- Ref 20 verifies Jones' opinion and placement of the track in their ranking. Y
- Refs 28 and 29 verifies the Reputation tour performance. The latter also does this with the ranking. Y
- Ref 31 verifies the performance at the Eras Tour. Y

Broad

Broad and without unnecessary details.

Neutral

It is, although you could the "A in a middle school English class personal essay assignment" opinion from ref 26 (lol).
- I couldn't think of any way to include it because it seemed like a trivial joke lol. Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Got it. With the rankings' positions it would be sufficient.

Stable

Yes. No edit wars recently or at any time since it was created like a week ago.

Illustrated

Image properly licensed and with alt-text, and is relevant.
To have a picture of another artist rather than Swift doesn't seem that appropiate to me. How about this not used in any enwiki article? It could also make sense considering the song's theme. Let me know what you think.
- I added it but I don't like how there are two images on such a small article... I'm planning on replacing both of them with just a sample from the song since we have good amount of composition details, what do you think? Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - It could work! And if instead one image is used, I would prefer one of Swift.
    - Done! CatchMe, how does everything look now? Medxvo (talk) 09:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      - Great work as always, @Medxvo: The new sample is properly licensed too and has a suitable caption. I will take a final look to the article and ✓ Pass it! CatchMe (talk · contribs) 12:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Final comments

I see that some notability issues were raised, but they seem resolved now. Great article, @Medxvo: I will put this On hold until some minor issues (and file recommendation) are fixed or discussed. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 06:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for the review, CatchMe! I left some comments above. Medxvo (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.