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A fact from Aristotelian physics appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 March 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Aristotle's ideas of physics held that because an object could not move without an immediate source of energy, arrows created a vacuum behind them that pushed them through the air?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/March.

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In Europe, Aristotle's theory was first convincingly discredited by Galileo's studies...

This is a bit weird; not least because "astronomy" isn't nominally part of A's physics, at least as described by the article's "concepts" section William M. Connolley (talk) 20:08, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Topic, the topic

The topic is not very clear. First, there is Aristotle's work, "Physics," and its contents. Then there is the extension of some of these topics into other works by Aristotle. Then, there is a follow up of these topics into later times. Also, there is an evaluation of Aristotle with regard to these topics. When we get into the evaluations of modern scientists of Aristotle, which are in no way either comprehensible or objective, we trail off into the infinite bellowing all the while like cattle. Mooo (excuse me). Mooo, I says. I suggest we follow the traditional method in classics. This should be an article on Aristotle's work. What does Aristotle say and what does he mean? I think you will find that is more than enough for one article, probably many. How do we get in that direction? We have to move in that direction. I have read most of this whole spiteful talk page. Mooo, I says. We need Aristotle, not spite. How can you be critical of Aristotle when you have no idea of what he says? Oh, as a sort of aside, all that balleyhoo (ralley balley) about him not being an experimentalist or a field scientist is just plain wrong. What do you think the school was doing? Sad to say, most of that work was lost. It isn't Aristotle's fault that he had no telescope anyway. For all the modern braggadocio about our instrumentation and our methods, we still don't know the nature of the universe. So, let's stick to Aristotle's physics. I will be making a few small changes in that direction from time to time.Botteville (talk) 06:43, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Typically of me, I wrote the above without checking out the entire situation. There IS an article on the work, physics. It is meant to be distinguished from this topic, which is about some sort of specificity, Aristotelian physics. I question whether there is such a thing as described here. Such a thing would have to appear in works of that title or on that subject not to be original research. But then, we would have to distinguish between Aristotle's work, Physics, and the category, Aristotelian physics. I'm not sure that is real. That there is such a straw man is probably true and the article might be about the straw man. I think you have to use someone's definition of Aristotelian physics. So, I still question the topic. I am, however, moving over to the other article. It might be some time before I can go over this one. Meanwhile it has the tag to alert the public. I'm going now. See you there.Botteville (talk) 07:29, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Biology

It’s worth mentioning Aristotle considered the theory of natural selection, cf pg1 Origin of Species. Tysonmidboe (talk) 10:13, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly not in an article on his physics. It is however mentioned elsewhere. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:31, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to second the suggestion to do something about the methods section. It mentions "Aristotle's principles" without saying what they were. Could that be filled in for a start to make the text coherent? And then, since it's entitled "methods", it would be good if it said something about Aristotle's methods, as has already been pointed out (but not repaired). Anyone...? Many thanks --Wadh27NK (talk) 22:07, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Methods section

The methods section - or is it the principles section - is poor. Because it doesn't tell us what his methods (or principles) were. It says While consistent with common human experience, Aristotle's principles were not based on controlled, quantitative experiments but that's no use. A's method was, what? Looking out of his window and making shit up? William M. Connolley (talk) 18:15, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is the last straw for real. If one states that the mass velocity statment is a Strawman relation the reader is to infer. The pretty graph of the statement CANNOT alter its truth. Arstotle's weight theory. What ever the issue, if one cannot state the Mckeon page number of his weight theory edition of his works. Do I have to apply some E=mc-sqr energy to the issue? If this is not corrected I request a new manager for this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.45.46.83 (talk) 11:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]