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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 23:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 13:42, 16 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Artificial planet; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • New enough (16 Dec), long enough (8,000 bytes+), well-sourced and neutral, and presentable and cited. Hooks are okay, but as a star wars fan... maybe let's word ALT1 into this:
ALT1a: ... that the Death Star is no moon; it's an artificial planet?
QPQ confirmed and no other issues. Nice little read. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 00:53, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus, TheLonelyPather, and Lightburst: the promoted hook, ALT1, fails WP:DYKFICTION. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
AirshipJungleman29, The subject is not fictional. Fiction is just a part of it. DYKFICTION does not apply. Move on, read more carefully please. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:10, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, my bad, sorry. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 03:32, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Creation of disambiguation page

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@बिनोद थारू: I see with this edit that you transformed this page from an article into a disambiguation page. The edit summary of this edit is "Create diambiguation page based off other page and manual" What was the other page and manual that you based this decision on? Z1720 (talk) 00:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Other page was Car (disambiguation).
Manual of style page was MOS:DISAMBIGUATION.
I just discovered right now I made a mistake though. The AFD was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Artificial_world and not for Artificial planet.
You can revert my edit if you wish. बिनोद थारू (talk) 00:12, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
IP redirected the AfD here too looks like. Both seem like forks of each other, so redirect to here may be enough (going against AFD result) but this doesn't need to be a disambiguation page. बिनोद थारू (talk) 00:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am going to revert your edit since this is to appear as a DYK soon. I think, from what I see in the AfD discussion, that the results are saying that Artificial world should be disambiguated, not this page. Z1720 (talk) 00:22, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I will copy there बिनोद थारू (talk) 00:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done बिनोद थारू (talk) 00:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Riverworld

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It doesn't seem to me that Riverworld is an artificial planet. It's a flat surface where, it seems, people go after they die. There is nothing in Farmer's books suggesting that Riverworld has an orbit or other planetary characteristics. It's more like the layout of a board game. Since the inclusion of Riverworld in the article is probably based on original research or opinion, I suggest that it can be removed with advantage. Wastrel Way (talk) 14:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Eric[reply]

Removing and replacing the AI-generated image

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The AI-generated image is neither an illustration depicting a fictional or theoretical artificial planet, nor a diagram depicting how a real-life artificial planet might be constructed. It is simply the work of an algorithm amalgamating the work of human artists to create what appears to be a difficult-to-parse image of a bundle of cables floating in an ocean.

The point of having pictures in an encyclopedia entry is to convey information visually, not just to make the article "look good". This image was not created by a person with an understanding of the topic because it was not created by a person at all. Thus, it cannot possibly convey information.

This image is all aesthetic, no substance. It would be suited for a tech demo, a personal desktop background, or an NFT, but it does not belong in what is ostensibly supposed to be an educational context. I would ask that we remove it and replace it with a more suitable image. 2601:47:4880:4B50:1CBF:1E55:6456:A559 (talk) 04:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. See WP:IMGCONTENT. "The purpose of an image is to increase readers' understanding of the article's subject matter, usually by directly depicting people, things, activities, and concepts described in the article." Artist impression of what an artificial planet is - and artists include people using AI to generate images - is perfectly fine. Replacing this with a fair use image that is not legally allowed here anyway, effectively removing the image, is not helpful for the readers. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image was not created by a person with an understanding of the topic because it was not created by a person at all. Thus, it cannot possibly convey information. I do not really understand what this sentence is supposed to mean; regardless, what Piotrus says is correct. jp×g🗯️ 04:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. To add to this further, AI is a tool. The image was generated by a human being (artist) using prompts. We might as well ban all images where the artist uses tablets, brushes, or perhaps is not painting using their fingers and bodily fluids :P Now, more seriously, many AI images are bad art, but so what? If the art is really bad - just like a blurry low res or confusing photo - we won't add it here. But the image in questions seems quite serviceable. No prejudice to it being removed one day when we have better images to chose from, either from more traditional human artists or from better AI tools. Until then, removing it seems to me a form of anti-AI luddism. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to point out that the image doesn't make sense. The "planet" is a ball in an ocean, with rocks sticking out of it. Artificial planets are not on the scale of rocks, and do not float in oceans. As the first commenter said, it does not reflect a correct understanding of the topic. The "planet" itself is nice but the setting does not work contextually. I think that it should be removed. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:29, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus @JPxG Mrfoogles (talk) 07:35, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrfoogles Well, it's an artist impression (and yes, I consider AI to be an artist, just like people can consider random natural scenery artistic). As I said before - this is better than nothing. I'd be happy to see it replaced by a better, non-AI image once we find it. Oh, and as for ocean with rocks or whatever - stranger things have been written about in works of sf. Lastly, looking at the image, I don't see an ocean, to me it seems like the (small) artificial planet is floating above a Jupiter or Venusian like planet. Shrug. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We already have a better non-AI image, though, at the top of the article. But if we’re not going to count that I guess I don’t have a better image to replace it. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrfoogles I wouldn't say it's better, it is different. We have room for both in the article of current size. (Considering the steady improvement in AI image generation, we probably could generate something better, but since we are talking about a fuzzy, sf concept, I am not sure we can agree what would be better, since we are dealing with artistic impressions...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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