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Larrypearl (talk) 22:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @Larrypearl:. I removed the sentence about the documentary. It didn't have a source, and future events should not normally be mentioned until they have taken place and been covered by reliable sources. WP:CRYSTAL is one of the relevant policies.
I tagged the article with "promotional content". Sentences like the music world would soon learn that Charlie’s dream was indeed happening are not in the WP:NEUTRAL tone usually used in Wikipedia articles.
You've said on your Talk page that you are related to Castleman. In this case, you shouldn't edit the article directly - you can put edit requests on this Talk page and uninvolved editors will see them. Please add references for any information you want to add.
Does that help at all? I know you are not a new editor, but I will add a Welcome to your user Talk page with links to resources which might help, and will also post the conflict of interest guidance there. I can recommend the tearoom if you have specific questions you would like to ask. Tacyarg (talk) 20:23, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting change to add additional references

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In 1963 he was a silver medalist at the [[Queen Elisabeth Competition|Queen Elisabeth Concours in Brussels]], and in 1966 was a bronze medalist at the [[Tchaikovsky Competition|Tchaikovsky Competition in Moscow]].
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In 1963 he was a silver medalist at the [[Queen Elisabeth Competition|Queen Elisabeth Concours in Brussels]], and in 1966 was a bronze medalist at the [[Tchaikovsky Competition|Tchaikovsky Competition in Moscow]].

Larrypearl (talk) 12:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Note that using this diff formatting makes the reference invisible unless we go into edit mode. Rusalkii (talk) 20:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you but since this was change was requested the section with this information was deleted by someone. I’m starting by rewriting each section starting with Early Life and Education. Next will be rewrite of Career. Larrypearl (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Change to add additional reference to CQP program

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In 2010 CQP celebrated its 41st anniversary under Castleman's direction with sessions at [[Fredonia, New York]] and [[Boulder, Colorado]]. And in 2021 celebrated its 50th anniversary with Charles Castleman still the program's director at age 83.
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In 2010 CQP celebrated its 41st anniversary under Castleman's direction with sessions at [[Fredonia, New York]] and [[Boulder, Colorado]].

Larrypearl (talk) 13:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. No sourcing. Axad12 (talk) 11:06, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed changes to add additional references

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  • Specific text to be added or removed: After a forty year career at Eastman School of Music (he became professor of violin in 1975), he is currently Professor of Violin at the Frost School of Music at the University of Miami.[3][4]

Reason for the change: Adding additional career reference References supporting change: https://events.rochester.edu/event/guest_masterclass_charles_castleman_violin Larrypearl (talk) 13:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


proposed changes and process

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Professor Castleman is my cousin. So I will NOT be making live edits but will use COI Procedures to ensure consensus and then use COI review for suggested changes.

The following discussion refers to the entry just before 15 December.

Generally I’ll be reworking entire sections to be written encyclopedic style with good primary references/sources and remove “creative writing”, opinions, etc.

The section about the “Castleman Quartet Program” will be removed. It will be referenced in another section. I will remove the quotation from Yo-Yo Ma (sounds like advertising?).

The “Contributions, Gifts, Endowment” section will be modified to be less storyline and more factual. Quote from Miclen LaiPang will be removed.

History: The original Wikipedia entry for Charles Martin Castleman was created in 2011 by a student at Eastman School of Music. Poorly written it was removed by Wikipedia on two occasions most likely due to poor primary references. Professor Castleman asked for my help. Although I had no Wikipedia experience I added a couple of references and removed a reference to a site in Russia, written in Russian (The Tchaikovsky Competition) and the entry remained, poorly written, until my recent attempted improvement. Larrypearl (talk) 22:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Proposed Rewritten "Early Life and Education"

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Early Life and Education

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Born in Quincy, Massachusetts, he began violin lessons at the age of four with Ondricek. When he was six he appeared as a soloist with Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops orchestra. At nine, he made his solo recital debuts at Jordan Hall in Boston and Town Hall in New York[5]In Aaron Richmond's Celebrity Series of 1950-51 he was co-featured with Mischa Elman, Jascha Heifetz and Isaac Stern.

Charles Castleman attended Thayer Academy schools in Braintree, Massachusetts.

He received AB and MA degrees from Harvard University, Curtis Institute of Music (Philadelphia), and the University of Pennsylvania.

He was a student of Emanuel Ondricek then Ivan Galamian at the Curtis Institute of Music in Philadelphia (1959–63), where his coaches were David Oistrakh, Henryk Szeryng, and Josef Gingold.  


Note: I have a reference from Thayer Academy that discusses his experiences at Thayer Academy and recent gift. I could reference this here in a later section "Contributions, Gifts, Endowments"

https://thayer.giftplans.org/index.php?cID=294 Larrypearl (talk) 14:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Please indicate which sources relate to which pieces of information in the suggested text. Apologies but volunteers are not going to spend their time doing this sort of basic cross-referencing which you should already have provided in your request. Axad12 (talk) 11:11, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting changes to Early Life and Education

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Note: adding significant education information. Attending Thayer Academy is worth mentioning because it was the only schools (from third grade through high school) attended until entering Harvard. Also, to be discussed in further section a legacy gift was left to Thayer. Also in the Thayer reference his life as a child musical prodigy is mentioned. Larrypearl (talk) 21:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Born in Quincy, Massachusetts, he began violin lessons at the age of four with Ondricek. When he was six he appeared as a soloist with Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops orchestra. At nine, he made his solo recital debuts at Jordan Hall in Boston and Town Hall in New York[6]In Aaron Richmond's Celebrity Series of 1950-51 he was co-featured with Mischa Elman, Jascha Heifetz and Isaac Stern.

Charles Castleman attended Thayer Academy[7]schools in Braintree, Massachusetts.

He received AB and MA degrees from Harvard University, Curtis Institute of Music (Philadelphia), and the University of Pennsylvania.

He was a student of Emanuel Ondricek then Ivan Galamian at the Curtis Institute of Music in Philadelphia (1959–63), where his coaches were David Oistrakh, Henryk Szeryng, and Josef Gingold.  

Suggested edits for Career section

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Suggested re-written Career section for Charles Martin Castleman which highlights his performance and teaching accomplishments. Requesting CIO help since I will not be directly editing the entry. Happy to provide clarification, and additional research if needed. Thnx. Larrypearl (talk) 18:02, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

==Career==

During and after completing his formal music education Charles Castleman continued his busy performance career as guest soloist with the orchestras of Philadelphia, Boston, Brisbane, Chicago, Hong Kong, Moscow, Mexico City, New York, San Francisco, Seoul and Shanghai.

In 1975 he became professor of violin at the Eastman School of Music, Rochester, NY, where he remained for the next forty years. He was Professor; String Chair (1986-88, 2003-8) and Faculty Senator[8].

Prior to joining Eastman he had numerous teaching positions including: Philadelphia Musical Academy (1967-77): Professor; SUNY Purchase (1970-77): Founding Advisor, Adjunct Associate; Curtis Institute of Music (1973-76): Founding V.P. Alumni Association, member Board of Directors

Although he continued to perform, his love of teaching and his ability to foster young musical careers led to his being in demand domestically and internationally. He has given violin master classes throughout the USA[9] as well as Australia, Austria. Canada, China, England, Finland, Japan, Korea, New Zealand, Switzerland, and Ukraine.

In 1970 he founded, the Castleman Quartet Program (CQP) a seven week summer music program that provides students with intensive study and performance of chamber music and solo repertory [10]. Consecutive Sessions are held on East Coast[11] and one in the West. Many graduates of CQP have gone on to distinguished musical careers[12][13][14][15]Kelly Hall-Tompkins,Karen Dreyfus. In 2021 the program celebrated its 50th anniversary.

From 1972-75 Castleman played with the New String Trio of N.Y. (Paul Doktor/Jennifer Langham). Recordings include: Reger String Trios (LP only) (BASF KBB21642 ’73), Frank Martin Trios(LP only) (BASF 2521638-1 ‘74)

He was with the Raphael Trio from 1975 to 2000, which made tours of the U.S. in a series of Haydn, Beethoven and Dvorak cycles. The trio played much contemporary music, including Bischof's Trio 89 at the Vienna Festival in 1989

in addition to his teaching, giving master classes, performing, and CQP organizational responsibilities, Castleman has participated in Music Festivals both domestically(Marlboro, VT, Grant Park, IL, Saratoga, NY, Juneau, AK, Sitka, AK, Ouray, CO, Musicians West, ID, Great Woods, MA, Bowdoin, ME, Great Gorge, NJ, Las Vegas, NV, Skaneateles, NY, Newport, RI, Round Top, TX, Park City, UT, Hampden-Sydney, VA) and internationally(Australia, Ukraine, Japan, Shanghai, England, Hungary, Austria.

He has also served on musical juries including Music Festival of Arkansas, Hudson Valley, Minnesota Orchestra, Fischoff, Greater Spokane Festival, Schubert Club (Minnesota), Greater Seattle Festival, .Schadt Competition (Allentown), , Crescendo Club (Tulsa), Juanita Miller Competition (Dallas),Szeryng (Toluca,MX)

In 2014 Castleman, an avid bicycle rider, decided he had enough of the harsh Rochester, NY winters and headed for a warmer climate taking the position of Professor of Violin at the Frost School of Music at the University of Miami[16]

He is the author of articles on Renaissance madrigals and violinist-composers.

"Bocca della Verita" of George Rochberg edited Charles Castleman 1965 Presser Music Company

"Tre Dame di Ferrara" 1969 (l’Anuario Musicale)..an edition and treatise on the 16th century madrigals of LuzzascoLuzzaschi

"The Romantic Violinist-Composer: Pro-active Artist before a Susceptible Public" -- Liber Amicorum Isabelle CazeauxFestschrift2003 Pendragon Press

"Superior Finger Exercises" of Emanuel Ondricek edited Charles Castleman 2005 Southern Music Company

"Violin Masters: Their Bow Techniques" 2007 Self-Published Larrypearl (talk) 18:28, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not Done. Unfortunately much of this request is either promotional, unsourced or written either in a non-neutral tone or in a non-encyclopaedic way. Please see WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NPOV and WP:NOTPROMO.
Regards, Axad12 (talk) 00:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Castleman, Charles. "Fifth Prize". Queen Elisabeth Competition. Retrieved 14 Dec 2024.
  2. ^ Castleman, Charles. "Brings Quartet Program to Campus". Fredonia State University. Retrieved 14 Dec 2024.
  3. ^ Eastman, School of Music. "Faculty Profile".
  4. ^ Castleman, Charles. "Guest Master Class". Univ Rochester past events. Retrieved 14 Dec 2024.
  5. ^ Schonberg, Harold (October 15, 1951). "Town Hall Oct. 14, 1951 debut". New York Times.
  6. ^ Schonberg, Harold (October 15, 1951). "Town Hall Oct. 14, 1951 debut". New York Times.
  7. ^ Castleman, Charles. "Violinist Gives Stock in Gratitude for Thayer Experience". Thayer Academy. Retrieved 12 Dec 2024.
  8. ^ Eastman, School of Music. "Faculty Profile".
  9. ^ Castleman, Charles. "Guest Master Class". Rochester University.
  10. ^ "Castleman Quartet Program. Unique summer music experience".
  11. ^ Castleman, Charles. "CQP at Fredonia". Fredonia State University.
  12. ^ Castleman, Charles. "CQP experience". Violinist.com blog.
  13. ^ Castleman, Charles. "Steven Tenebom". Juilliard Faculty. Retrieved 12 December 2024.
  14. ^ Castleman, Charles. "Allyson Dawkins". UTexasSanAntonioFaculty. Retrieved 12 December 2024.
  15. ^ Castleman, Charles. "Olivia De Prato". about Olivia De Prato. Retrieved 12 December 2024.
  16. ^ The Violin Channel (11 July 2014). "It has been announced that 73 year old American violinist Charles Castleman has been appointed as Professor of Violin at Miami's Frost School of Music".
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