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Nicholas J. Fuentes (December 7, 2023). "GOP Presidential Debate 4".

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Adding more latest information on Nick Fuentes, update image to a more distinctive and recent time. Jmac66999 (talk) 12:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 14:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Effect on 4B Movement

I made an edit on a post he made on X. It could be added here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=My_body,_my_choice&diff=prev&oldid=1256057499 207.96.32.81 (talk) 00:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 4B movement is a vastly overblown sentiment that isn't even very popular in South korea, I don't really think it's notable Jjbomb (talk) 21:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

the photo used is very low quality, can it be updated? 72.78.149.104 (talk) 00:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i forgot to log in 72.78.149.104 (talk) 00:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We dont have another one available as of now --FMSky (talk) 02:52, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Groypers

Could someone add a hyperlink to the Wikipedia entry on Groypers to the use of the term in the article? Owlsblab (talk) 18:47, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification - I meant in the part talking about Gettr deplatforming him. Owlsblab (talk) 18:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's linked at the top of that section. See MOS:REPEATLINK for why we don't repeat links throughout. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Should be listed as a Mexican-American not just American 50.47.82.60 (talk) 02:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, he’s also Italian-American too. American is fine as is.^[1]

References

^ https://www.conservapedia.com/Nicholas_J._Fuentes

Not done: per MOS:ETHNICITY. Skynxnex (talk) 18:28, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFC on Swatting inclusion

Should there be a change in Personal Life section from

According to Fuentes, he is of Mexican descent via his paternal ancestors and is Catholic.^[1]^[2]

to

According to Fuentes, he is of Mexican descent via his paternal ancestors and is Catholic.^[3]^[2]Fuentes lives alone and has been subject to swatting incidents. ^[4]^[5]

? 207.96.32.81 (talk) 12:31, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is both grammatically incorrect, the sources are insufficient, and it probably breaks at least one guideline: WP:CRIME. Allan Nonymous (talk) 06:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CRIME is about notability for article subjects, not information in the article. Readingpro256 _{talk to me contribs} 14:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're right on WP:CRIME but I still feel there is no reason to include this in the personal life section of the article without sufficient sourcing. Allan Nonymous (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems undue to add the swatting claim on the basis of the provided sources. If we do include it then it would be wise to indicate that the SPLC said, in that source, that he misrepresented SWATTING claims as being directed to his parents' address rather than his own. Simonm223 (talk) 17:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to Fuentes, he is of Mexican descent via his paternal ancestors and is Catholic. Fuentes lives alone and has been subject to swatting incidents. Readingpro256 _{talk to me contribs} 14:29, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps "According to Fuentes, he is Catholic and has Mexican ancestry from his paternal ancestors"? Kline • talk • contribs 14:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds a bit off. What about "According to Fuentes, he is Catholic and has Mexican ancestry on his father's side"? Readingpro256 _{talk to me contribs} 14:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can work with that, seems more fluent than the current suggestion. Kline • talk • contribs 14:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just say he is Catholic and of Mexican descent through his father, why do we have to include "According to Fuentes". It's not a contentious claim.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:20, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because he's a white supremacist, and trusting white supremacists on race-related stuff (or most things) is somewhat dubious. Mrfoogles (talk) 03:22, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

References

^ Cortellessa, Eric; Sheffield, Matthew (November 22, 2019). "The Conservative Establishment's Nightmare Is Only Just Beginning". Washington Monthly. Archived from the original on December 21, 2019. Retrieved April 30, 2020. Fuentes, who identifies as a traditional Catholic and is partially of Hispanic descent...
^ ^a ^b Anderson, Nick (November 16, 2019). "Far-right agitators roil the conservative movement on college campuses in battle to define Trumpism". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on November 17, 2019. Retrieved November 18, 2019.
^ Cortellessa, Eric; Sheffield, Matthew (November 22, 2019). "The Conservative Establishment's Nightmare Is Only Just Beginning". Washington Monthly. Archived from the original on December 21, 2019. Retrieved April 30, 2020. Fuentes, who identifies as a traditional Catholic and is partially of Hispanic descent...
^ "Nick Fuentes Trades Parents' Basement for Pricey Livestreaming Den". Southern Poverty Law Center. 2022-11-19.
^ "Fuentes Victim Of 'Swatting' Incidents: Cops". La Grange, IL Patch. 2023-01-06.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 November 2024: Typo

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Typo In the "Political Activities" Section, at the end of the first paragraph of the "Relation to the January 6 Capitol Attack" subject, Donald Trump's name is incorrectly spelled as "Domald Trump" Change Domald Trump to Donald Trump in the sentence "In February 2021, a video of his speech was played during the second impeachment trial of Domald Trump by the House delegate Stacey Plaskett." Hotel716 (talk) 15:34, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done – Muboshgu (talk) 15:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A new photo is necessary

Even a screenshot from a recent video of his would be an upgrade, as the current one is both old and low quality. 2001:BB6:7DC4:500:64F3:7F1A:5F:2ED8 (talk) 17:58, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have to follow WP:Copyright policy. Does he make his videos freely available by Creative Commons licenses? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the vid of him assaultin a woman was uploaded to youtube under CCL 2601:281:DA01:70B0:4473:D9A6:9104:4268 (talk) 08:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I uploaded a photo of his mugshot to Wikimedia Commons. We can use that photo, as long as everyone is fine with that. NesserWiki (talk) 16:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What's the copyright status of the mugshot? Simonm223 (talk) 16:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is not copyrighted. No mugshots are. NesserWiki (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I mean I have no objection then but you might want to wait long enough for other editors to weigh in. Simonm223 (talk) 16:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mugshots are not an ideal profile photo because of obvious BLP and NPOV concerns. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:29, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will wait. NesserWiki (talk) 18:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

typo in the beginning

the page is protected so somebody please change “as” to “is” 2A02:3035:B14:3C0B:8517:6FB4:8F13:2CE2 (talk) 02:00, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see it. If you mean "Fuentes identifies as a member of the incel movement, a supporter of authoritarianism, and as an integralist and a Christian nationalist" this is correct. He identifies ... as an integralist... Grayfell (talk) 03:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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i want to add about the fact that nick funetes "declared war on maga" with the claim "his campaign has been hijacked by the same consultants, lobbyists, & donors that he defeated in 2016, and they're blowing it." as well as his claims that trumpism is a cult. Juliansmith1234 (talk) 10:05, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The purpose of this talk page is to propose specific changes to the article. If you have a specific change and can cite reliable sources, please feel free to propose that change here. Otherwise, you can edit the article once you have made 500 edits with your account and that account is at least 30 days old. (You will still need reliable sources, though.) Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 09:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'Do we add his current controversy surrounding him and destiny, or wait for more updates/further from recency alongside responses'

hey I like men too good for him 2600:100C:B295:450B:2534:3DF1:B9F7:3703 (talk) 03:53, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt you'll find any source talking about this story at all --FMSky (talk) 11:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I dont know what constitutes a legitimate source, but heres a link to what I've found

https://www.soapcentral.com/human-interest/news-who-destiny-what-know-streamer-amid-alleged-nick-fuentes-video-claims 2600:100C:B295:450B:2534:3DF1:B9F7:3703 (talk) 16:38, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That does not appear to be a reliable source. Simonm223 (talk) 16:40, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It’s literally just innuendo 181.115.208.249 (talk) 05:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Update to include information regarding Fuentes's arrest for Battery http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/nick-fuentes-battery-275931 Ticketthedog (talk) 19:52, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already done Kline • talk • contribs 02:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on December 19 2024

A assassination attempt was made on Right Wing politician Nicholas Joseph Fuentes after his house was doxxed on Twitter the shooter had a pistol and a crossbow he rang the doorbell shouting "Yo Nick!" According to Fuentes the cops killed the man in a shootout the assassin went into a neighbour's house killing 2 dogs before being killed by the police the shooter had committed a homicide yesterday https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/assassination-attempt-on-nick-fuentes-at-his-home-far-right-influencer-says-armed-killer-dead-article-116482364 950CMR (talk) 23:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

statement from Nick Fuentes:https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/1869821380663095536 950CMR (talk) 23:50, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Video released by Nicholas Joseph Fuentes on the shooter:https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/1869839665295159335 950CMR (talk) 23:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally Nick has raised a 10 thousand dollar fund from cyptrocurrency since his bank account was frozen as stated in the tweet he raised it for a private 24 hours security 950CMR (talk) 23:55, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More sources:https://www.newsx.com/world/who-is-nick-fuentes-white-supremacist-claims-assassination-attempt-at-his-home/ 950CMR (talk) 23:56, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think any of these are WP:RS. Fuentes's Twitter isn't. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on December 20 2024

The women who doxxed Nick Fuentes has closed her account in response to the tactical response of the Groypers during the aftermath of the Assassination Attempt Myron Gaines hosting a space live with Sulaiman asked others to mass report her account

Source:https://x.com/hayasaka_aryan/status/1869893494451646581 950CMR (talk) 01:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not actually an edit request. Simonm223 (talk) 13:30, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First Dox was not in 2024

The SPLC was aware of Fuente’s location before 2024.

[1]https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/12/19/nick-fuentes-trades-parents-basement-pricey-livestreaming-den 207.96.32.81 (talk) 03:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.conservapedia.com/Nicholas_J._Fuentes

[2] Cortellessa, Eric; Sheffield, Matthew (November 22, 2019). "The Conservative Establishment's Nightmare Is Only Just Beginning". Washington Monthly. Archived from the original on December 21, 2019. Retrieved April 30, 2020. Fuentes, who identifies as a traditional Catholic and is partially of Hispanic descent...

[:2Anderson-3] Anderson, Nick (November 16, 2019). "Far-right agitators roil the conservative movement on college campuses in battle to define Trumpism". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on November 17, 2019. Retrieved November 18, 2019.

[4] Cortellessa, Eric; Sheffield, Matthew (November 22, 2019). "The Conservative Establishment's Nightmare Is Only Just Beginning". Washington Monthly. Archived from the original on December 21, 2019. Retrieved April 30, 2020. Fuentes, who identifies as a traditional Catholic and is partially of Hispanic descent...

[5] "Nick Fuentes Trades Parents' Basement for Pricey Livestreaming Den". Southern Poverty Law Center. 2022-11-19.

[6] "Fuentes Victim Of 'Swatting' Incidents: Cops". La Grange, IL Patch. 2023-01-06.

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