Talk:Rajputs of Nepal
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1) This article makes many references to the term 'Rajput' without demonstrating appropriate historical data to support the author's claims.
2) The author/contributor conflates the dynastic periods in Nepali history without critically analysing the different origins and ethnic backgrounds of the personnages. Their argument seems to be that the different Indo-Aryan dynasties that have ruled Nepal for the past 1500 years are related lineage-wise to today's Khas-Gorkha upper castes that claim 'Rajput' origins. This argument is not supported by any historical data on Nepal. Second, it takes the Indian title of 'Rajput' at face value without critically examining its usages in history.
3) The author/contributor has used a biased political position in a discussion on the 'Nepali' language and had deleted an addition of mine that critically analysed the biased position. My change on the page was to show that the language that we today know as Nepali was known in Nepal till the end of the 19th century as 'Khas kura/Gorkha bhasa/Parbatiya'. In their comment on my addition, they called the addition as 'Newari POV', which is an erroneous and biased claim since we have historical evidence from the early 20th century of the Rana government of Nepal declaring the Gorkha language as 'Nepali' at the behest of Gorkhali intellectuals in India.[1] 4) The writer confuses between basic sociological concepts like class and caste.
ANM (talk) 12:44, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- I absolutely agree that attempt of Identity theft has been made on this article without sufficient data backed by historical facts. @Ratnahastin Sir please tag relevant editors for healthy discussion 5o reach constructive conclusion. As a common knowledge, Rajputs are not Kshatriyas, neither Licchavis nor Mallas were undisputedly Rajputs but in this article all of them are connected to rajputs while attempt to prove Rajputs as Kshatriyas. People discussed in this article i.e. Chetris Thakkuris Chathariyas are not officialy called Rajputs in Nepal neither they connect themselves to any such Identity. Rajput in Nepal is only used by Madheshis which is clearly mentioned at the end of this article. Gokuishere (talk) 01:09, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- The topic of article is Rajputs in Nepal, you are attempting to hijack it by renaming the article and changing all mentions of them with Khasas. - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did that because there is no other way. Just match the information in Infobox with what is written in article. Infobox correctly mentions 40k population of Rajput in Nepal with their Bhojpuri language which matches only with last section "Terai Madheshi" rajputs. Chhetris alone have more than million population and this article claimed Chhetris Thakkuris Chathariyas etc as Rajputs which is identity theft. If not move then remove all content mentioning about history of Nepali Khas Kshatriyas leaving last section which talks about Rajputs who are called Madheshi in Nepal. Gokuishere (talk) 01:21, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- For more Info read Kshetris Shresthas Thakuri and Khas people whose identity theft is attempted on this article. Hope you wont misuse RV function unnecessarily unless you support POV being pushed here. Gokuishere (talk) 01:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did that because there is no other way. Just match the information in Infobox with what is written in article. Infobox correctly mentions 40k population of Rajput in Nepal with their Bhojpuri language which matches only with last section "Terai Madheshi" rajputs. Chhetris alone have more than million population and this article claimed Chhetris Thakkuris Chathariyas etc as Rajputs which is identity theft. If not move then remove all content mentioning about history of Nepali Khas Kshatriyas leaving last section which talks about Rajputs who are called Madheshi in Nepal. Gokuishere (talk) 01:21, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- The topic of article is Rajputs in Nepal, you are attempting to hijack it by renaming the article and changing all mentions of them with Khasas. - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
In the text, successive dynasties of Nepal need to be rendered in their proper chronological order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swanbau (talk • contribs) 12:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ Onta, Pratyoush. 1999. "The Career of Bhanubhakta as a History of Nepali National Culture, 1940-1999." Studies in Nepal History and Society4(1): 65-136.