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Genetics

Why is there no section on the genetics of the Scottish population? 2.98.201.84 (talk) 12:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Scottish nation" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Scottish nation has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 12 § Scottish nation until a consensus is reached. CycloneYoris ^talk! 23:22, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"While Highland Scots are of Celtic (Gaelic) descent, Lowland Scots are descended from people of Germanic stock."

There does not seem to be much evidence to support this generalised and arguably outdated claim. It greatly implies Anglo-Saxons replaced rather than assimilated the Brythonic Celts which recent studies have cast doubt on. DNA mapping by Oxford University in 2015 even found the English population had far lower Anglo-Saxon ancestry than previously thought. Furthermore, whilst there will undoubtedly be higher Anglo-Saxon ancestry in the Lowlands, especially in the former territories of Bernicia, there is in fact similar Germanic ancestry in the Highlands, particularly in the Hebrides, Caithness and Northern Isles due to Norse settlement. The idea that Lowland Scots are homogeneously Germanic and Highland Scots homogeneously Celtic just has no basis in fact. VeryReluctantAcademic (talk) 10:49, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

agreed. The shift was more about language and wasn't a replacement of a different group of people. Simply, the lowlanders who were at one time Pictish or Gaelic speaking became speakers of a new language, Scots. 2001:FB1:11A:E21:9509:BCCB:28A6:38E7 (talk) 14:29, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page image is a Union Jack

I first viewed this page on the mobile app where the main article image is a Union Jack. This does not appear on the web version of the article but it does show up under Tools > Page Information > Page Image. Anybody know how to get this changed? Jp2207 (talk) 19:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The image seems to be chosen automatically: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageImages#Image_choice "It aims to return the single most appropriate thumbnail associated with an article." It seems to be taking the image from the Culture of the United Kingdom template, for some reason. I removed the template as a test, and subsequently restored it, and there was no page image listed while the template wasn't present. "All images on the page are collected, and a score for each image is calculated. The image with the highest score is selected as the page image." Seems odd that this should be one from a template. Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The page English people is very similar in structure, yet the image used is the from the "part of a series on English people" infobox. Is it possible to explicitly set the article main image and so override any 'automatic' behaviour? Jp2207 (talk) 23:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not as far as I can tell. From the "How are images scored?" section of the PageImages link, I think one would have to actively game it to have a favoured image. That the image in the Culture of Scotland template was recently reduced to below 119 would negatively weight it as a choice but having increased it to above again has not made it the page image at this article. Not sure that a flag is necessarily the most suitable choice of image for a people anyway but the Scottish one is probably less unsuitable. Mutt Lunker (talk) 00:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed that it is questionable to use the modern Scottish flag to represent "the Scottish people", but it is worse to use any other flag! Jp2207 (talk) 01:26, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]