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@KeepItGoingForward: The topic of the article is special operations. Special operations is a military activity.^[1] Your contributions to the article have been on the organisation of the units/forces that conduct special operations and not the military activities. Wikipedia has a dedicated article for the organisation of the units/forces: special forces. You have added units/forces by country. Wikipedia also has a list of the units/forces by country: List of military special forces units.

The content of this article should be similar to other articles on operations such as Infantry tactics, Guerrilla warfare, Counterinsurgency and Psychological warfare. This article previously was an analysis of US special operations.

You placed the US analysis under a new section titled History and added information on Australian, Polish and Japanese units and created a new section titled "Countries and Units with Special Operation Focus" also on units or their organisational structure. This is duplicating content in the special forces article. You copied the Australian and Japanese sections directly from the special forces article. Regards,--Melbguy05 (talk) 04:23, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Melbguy05 Feel free to add content to the article, I agree much can be improved. KeepItGoingForward (talk) 17:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@KeepItGoingForward: I reverted your edits as they were not on the article's topic. Wikipedia has a dedicated article for special forces units / special operations forces: special forces. There is also a list of units and their commands by country. regards, --Melbguy05 (talk) 21:20, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Melbguy05 The edits fall within the scope of the page. You will notice you deleted many examples of special operations with your mass reversion. Please do not vandalize the page. If you are going to do substantial edits please add content and improve the article. KeepItGoingForward (talk) 04:27, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no vandalism going on here, just a disagreement about what the scope of this article should be. But I have to say that the difference in scope between this article and the Special forces article needs to be made clearer. If this article is about special operations goals and doctrine, then a fair amount of what is currently in the other article could be moved here instead, couldn't it? Such as the other article's early history section, and the first specialized units section, and SAS beliefs, and Australia training "stay behind" units, and so forth. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:08, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Wasted Time R I agree the scope of the article needs to be more precisely defined, though I believe my edits have been in the spirit of the article, as they deal with specific special operations and units that specialize in special operations. I do also agree that much of what is on the special forces article could be moved to this article or accept there will be some overlap between the articles.

Referring to @Melbguy05 large revert as vandalism without a prior consensus for the reversion may be overly strong; however, removing a majority of the article does not improve it, especially when the discussion on the talk page is ongoing. "Improve, Don't Remove" is after all one of the general principles of wiki. @Melbguy05 I see you list yourself as an expert on special operations on the MILHIST member page, so the article could grow with you using your expertise to add content to the article. KeepItGoingForward (talk) 06:21, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Ehrensvärd Jensen, Maj Lars H. (April 2014). "Special Operations - Myths and facts". Copenhagen: Royal Danish Defence College. pp. 6–7. ISBN 9788771470505. Retrieved 4 September 2022.

[1] Ehrensvärd Jensen, Maj Lars H. (April 2014). "Special Operations - Myths and facts". Copenhagen: Royal Danish Defence College. pp. 6–7. ISBN 9788771470505. Retrieved 4 September 2022.

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