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Hayla Ghazal
- ... that Syrian vlogger Hayla Ghazal used online humour to explore the limitations placed on women in the Arab world? Source: "When I first started my channel, I used comedy to highlight misconceptions about women and to encourage young girls to be ambitious. I would dress up as different characters portraying a typical Middle Eastern family and used storytelling to create impact." https://www.khaleejtimes.com/local-events/dubais-hayla-tv-reveals-secrets-behind-9million-youtube-fans
Lajmmoore (talk) 12:29, 11 January 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: I fixed up some minor grammatical errors, and the only problem I can identify now are the formatting of the citation links. For the website parameter, please do not put "web.archive.com", put the website the source is from eg The Guardian, Arabian Business. Change "hello@lovindubai.com" to LovinDubai. Also, please add the URL parameter (especially since the links are not dead), and then add "url-status=live" to indicate this. The first source seems unreliable, so I would remove it and find a better source for her age - if you can't, just remove it all together. Also fix the title of reference 10.
Additionally I would change the hook to align more closely with what the source says:
- ALT0a: that Syrian internet personality Hayla Ghazal used comedy to explore misconceptions of women in the Arab world?
Overall, nice article! jolielover♥talk 16:18, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore: Pinging so you can see jolielover♥talk 16:20, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks very much Jolielover - new DYK looks good and I've fixed the references. I used the Naijia live source as it seemed the most formal, there's quite a few other places where her full birth date is listed, but they we websites like 'celebrity birthdays', etc. but I added a [better source needed] tag. Many thanks for the review Lajmmoore (talk) 16:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Lajmmoore I've made some changes, however, the article is quite short, just above the character limit of 1,500; I believe this falls into WP:DYKCOMPLETE. There seems to be much more on the Arabic Wikipedia on her, so translating the text to significantly improve the article and make it look complete would be nice. I can't pass this review unless the article is significantly expanded upon, sorry; please work on this. Thanks. jolielover♥talk 19:00, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, the Arabic article is longer, but when I used Google translate to examine it, quite a lot of the article appeared to me to be extraneous detail, or from sources that I didn't evaluate as RS for English Wikipedia, or when I looked at some of the claims, they were not substantiated by the references used. One example of the latter is that her family is from Aleppo which uses this reference - which doesn't mention the city at all. In the Arabic language article, half the personal life section is about her marriage, which is unreferenced. Again in personal life, there's unreferenced detail on her education (well, referenced to Wikipedia), or the detail on her fashion business references videos on oln.tv (which seems like a promotional channel). I could go through every paragraph like this, and there would be very similar issues with all of the sections, which is why I chose not to do a direct translation of the article (perhaps I should have made a note on the talk page to that extent). I do recognise that it might appear that there is lots of useful content there, but I think if I included much of what is not in this version, editors might suggest this is article is bloated. An example of that is the first table in the AR version which is a list of her conference appearances! There is a useful point (that I do think should be included and I missed) on how she was only successful when she made Arabic-language content, and I'm just looking to see what else I might have missed, but I don't really do not have the impression that everything on AR can a) be referenced securely or b) would site well within EN articles. Lajmmoore (talk) 20:17, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Jolielover, I've expanded the article further, using those AR sources that are RS, can you take a further look? Lajmmoore (talk) 21:29, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, the Arabic article is longer, but when I used Google translate to examine it, quite a lot of the article appeared to me to be extraneous detail, or from sources that I didn't evaluate as RS for English Wikipedia, or when I looked at some of the claims, they were not substantiated by the references used. One example of the latter is that her family is from Aleppo which uses this reference - which doesn't mention the city at all. In the Arabic language article, half the personal life section is about her marriage, which is unreferenced. Again in personal life, there's unreferenced detail on her education (well, referenced to Wikipedia), or the detail on her fashion business references videos on oln.tv (which seems like a promotional channel). I could go through every paragraph like this, and there would be very similar issues with all of the sections, which is why I chose not to do a direct translation of the article (perhaps I should have made a note on the talk page to that extent). I do recognise that it might appear that there is lots of useful content there, but I think if I included much of what is not in this version, editors might suggest this is article is bloated. An example of that is the first table in the AR version which is a list of her conference appearances! There is a useful point (that I do think should be included and I missed) on how she was only successful when she made Arabic-language content, and I'm just looking to see what else I might have missed, but I don't really do not have the impression that everything on AR can a) be referenced securely or b) would site well within EN articles. Lajmmoore (talk) 20:17, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Lajmmoore I've made some changes, however, the article is quite short, just above the character limit of 1,500; I believe this falls into WP:DYKCOMPLETE. There seems to be much more on the Arabic Wikipedia on her, so translating the text to significantly improve the article and make it look complete would be nice. I can't pass this review unless the article is significantly expanded upon, sorry; please work on this. Thanks. jolielover♥talk 19:00, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks very much Jolielover - new DYK looks good and I've fixed the references. I used the Naijia live source as it seemed the most formal, there's quite a few other places where her full birth date is listed, but they we websites like 'celebrity birthdays', etc. but I added a [better source needed] tag. Many thanks for the review Lajmmoore (talk) 16:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)