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Reference errors on 31 October

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November 2016

Hello, I'm Utcursch. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Khas people, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. See WP:BURDEN: If you are adding or restoring unsourced or poorly-sourced content, you have to provide references that support that content. utcursch | talk 19:02, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not add or change content, as you did at Khas people, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. utcursch | talk 19:44, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Once again, please see WP:BURDEN. Feel free to add content to the article, with sources that actually support the content. utcursch | talk 19:45, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've read it. It does support the content. I did even pointed out the exact page numbers for you. Also, those unstanding statements are in processing of rephrasing into sounding statements in accordance to the reference. Again please do not for a "merge" which you didn't perform at all, if you want to nominate it for deletion, do it. Read your user talk page. --146.111.30.193 (talk) 19:51, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Khas people. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. utcursch | talk 19:57, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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It's just your unilateral claim. You turned a blind eye on the well-sourced content. For example,

According to 2011 census of Nepal, about 44.6% of total population spoke Khas kura as their mother tongue, most of whom are of Khas origin.[1]

was well-sourced, and you turned a blind eye on it. Again. If you believe it's verifiable, raise the problem at WP:AFDHOWTO, and our community will resolved. I am just against your unilateral edit. --146.111.30.193 (talk) 20:01, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is the reference you have provided in your version of the article. It does not even mention the word "Khas". Just because "Khas kura" is a name for the Nepali language does not mean that all these Nepali speakers are Khas people, just like all the English speakers in the world are not of English ancestry. That is your original research. utcursch | talk 20:04, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. And it didn't claim how many of them are Khas, thus not a form of OR. This sentence simply pointed out the fact that there are lot of Khas-speaking people in Nepal, and left the reader to think how many of them are Khas people. --146.111.30.193 (talk) 20:07, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:SYN. Providing a source for linguistic population, and then sneaking unsourced claim "most of whom are of Khas origin" is not acceptable. utcursch | talk 20:10, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll find a source of "most of whom are of Khas origin". --146.111.30.193 (talk) 20:15, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, you are adding fake references to the article. [1] does not even mention the term "Khas". Please stop doing this, or you will end up getting blocked. utcursch | talk 20:20, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be rush, more references are being add. This source (not fake) mentioned that Brahmin and Chhetri together form an ethnic group, and another source is being add to show that the ethnic group that Brahmin and Chhetri belong to was called Khas. --146.111.30.193 (talk) 20:26, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add fake references to Wikipedia. The entire paper is available here, and it does not support the assertions that you're making. utcursch | talk 20:34, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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@Utcursch: It's clearly not a fake reference. It asserts that "Similarly Khas was no longer referred to as a country with its own customary law, but as the Chetri or Tagadhari Ksatri species". Clearly the nation Chhetri belongs to is Khas, and according to reference 2, Bahun and Chhetri belong to the same nation, thus Bahun also belong to the Khas nation. BTW, you thought I cannot found the paper? --146.111.30.193 (talk) 20:43, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That is really bad synthesis. "Brahmin and Chhetris together comprise the largest group in Nepal" is not same as "Bahun and Chhetri belong to the same nation, thus Khas". Feel free to take your concerns to WP:DRN if you feel you're right. utcursch | talk 20:46, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Utcursch: I cannot see how this is original research. The first article said the the nation Chhetri belongs to is Khas, and the second article said they belong to the same nation. So what nation can Bahun belong to except Khas? --146.111.30.193 (talk) 20:52, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The first source states that Khas claimed Kshatriya status (p. 107), and that Jang Bahadur relabeled the term "Khas jat" to Chetri (p. 119). The second source describes Brahmin and Chhetri as two caste groups, and doesn't mention the word "Khas" at all. Everything else is your own synthesis. Feel free to add your claims back with a source that directly supports them. utcursch | talk 21:05, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the first source assert that those Khas took the title Chetri, not only the Kshatriya status. One took the Kshatriya status still have its ethnic identity, but one took the title Chetri refers themselves as Chetri and forgot their ethnic identity Khas because the term Chetri currently exclusive refer to those people of both Kshatriya status and Gorkhalic origin. The second article list the two caste into one nation, although it didn't name that nation. It establish that Bahun belongs to whatever nation Chetri belongs to. --146.111.30.193 (talk) 21:22, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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