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AMD Livebox

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The AMD LiveBox was shown at a conference, but based on the lack of further references, apparently never became a product. No significant coverage in sources, so not notable. Dicklyon (talk) 08:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kimi Colney

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The subject is not notable in their field, writing articles for some news websites does not contribute to Notability. The subject fails WP:AUTHOR,WP:ACADEMIC and WP:GNG. Taabii (talk) 08:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Abul Khair Group

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Lack of Reliable Sources: The article lacks citations from reputable, independent sources to verify the information presented. This absence of verifiable references undermines the article's credibility and violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy.

Neutrality Concerns: The content appears promotional, highlighting the company's achievements without a balanced perspective. This promotional tone conflicts with Wikipedia's neutral point of view guideline.

Notability Issues: The article does not provide sufficient evidence that Abul Khair Group meets Wikipedia's notability criteria for organizations. Notability requires significant coverage in reliable, independent sources, which is not demonstrated here.

Original Research: Some statements seem to be based on original research or firsthand knowledge, lacking proper citations. Wikipedia prohibits original research, requiring all material to be attributable to published sources. Wh8t0n3arth (talk) 08:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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1oneam

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Promo piece on a non-notable musician. Rejected at AfC but moved into the mainspace regardless, speedy requested but the tag was removed, so here we are at AfD. No evidence of notability, the sources don't come even close to meeting WP:GNG, BEFORE finds only social media and streaming sites, and there is nothing in this draft to suggest WP:MUSICBIO notability either. DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kingsley Beatty Gibbs

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The article is largely sourced to a book written by the subject which is clearly not independent and a primary source. The interest in this person appears to be due to the family relation to a notable person. Possibly a case of WP:NOTINHERITED. Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 06:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Brian Lydell

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Unreferenced BLP other than IMDB as an external link. Not clear the subject meets WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 06:03, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Abner Louima

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Fails WP:VICTIM and WP:BLP1E. We shouldn't have a biography on a person who is only known for being the victim of a crime. A possible WP:ATD would be repurposing this to an event page in the same we that we often do with murders and other crimes.4meter4 (talk) 05:51, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Government Engineering College, Ajmer

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This article's subject does not appear to meet notability standards. The article contains no references except for a dead link from the school's website and I can not find and reliable sources mentioning it on the internet. Cyrobyte (talk) 05:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment and questions. I'm confused about the government's and universities' roles in this college's governance and what degrees are offered. Who owns the college? Who owns the land? Why are there hostels but no residence halls? Who are notable alumni and faculty? Is it accredited? Until these questions are answered, I'm not sure what to do. Bearian (talk) 03:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Luke Vincent Lockwood

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The one viewable source has only one sentence of coverage. The other offline source can't support the entire text because it was published in 1926. The death information in 1951 is therefore unreferenced. We can therefore only assume that the Hubbard text is only supporting his participation in the Free Masons. There's not enough here to meet WP:SIGCOV/ WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 05:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Roberto Vera Monroig

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Easily fails WP:GNG as it did last year when previously deleted, and there has been no new or near substantial coverage. Snowycats (talk) 05:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Stanley Lieberson

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Article is cited to a staff biography at Harvard and a paid obituary in the Boston Globe (not a staff written one). Neither of these are independent. Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 05:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy/snow keep. The nomination does not mention the relevant notability guideline of WP:NPROF, which the subject here clearly passes multiple criteria of. Sourcing could be better -- the Harvard source in the article doesn't work for me, but this one does [1], the AAAS membership is verified here [2] -- but as usual, WP:DINC. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 05:50, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy keep WP:SK3, completely erroneous nomination that fails to even consider the correct notability criteria, WP:PROF and WP:AUTHOR, noting also that PROF notability is not about independence of sourcing. This stub manages to pack in five separate and unambiguous claims of WP:PROF notability: named professor at Harvard (at a time when that meant much more than it might today), member of NAS, Amacad, and the American Philosophical Society, and president of the American Sociological Association. The Harvard link (visible in archive [3]) gives even more, including another fellowship, two more presidencies, and a very likely pass of WP:AUTHOR even before looking for book reviews. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Lee (still photographer)

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Clear case of WP:NOTINHERITED. Everything is related to his brother Spike Lee in a search. Article is sourced to a self published website. Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 05:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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James V. LaSala

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Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 05:05, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism on Wikipedia

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This is basically the same as Wikipedia:Vandalism. We don't need to have an article specifically about vandalism on Wikipedia, and much of the info in here is covered in Wikipedia:Vandalism. Cyber the tiger 🐯 (talk) 05:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think this article should be salted 54rt678 (talk) 05:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Wikipedia:Vandalism: The article is duplicative of an existing project page. TarnishedPath^talk 06:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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WNYT (internet radio)

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Non-notable Internet radio station; just two sources; TV station in Albany should be primary topic. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per first AFD. College radio station that was on the air for decades; while the article could certainly use some work, the topic is notable. 162 etc. (talk) 17:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete previous AfD keep votes and above argue WP:ITSNOTABLE. I'm not seeing sources to establish GNG. LibStar (talk) 08:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - If it was on-air for decades it is likely notable in some way, even if that's difficult to verify with online sources (a typical issue with topics like smaller media orgs) - the argument that another radio should be WP:PTOPIC is irrelevant - it's disambiguated already, that's why DABs exist. (Although it's irrelevent to this discussion, I am inclined to agree that the Albany station is likely PTOPIC here) ASUKITE 16:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment it existed until 2023, so it should get online coverage. None of the keep !votes have provided evidence of coverage. LibStar (talk) 04:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A City Dressed in Dynamite

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Non-notable album; shows no indication of notability. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:34, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Government procurement in Poland

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Links to only one article. Text has not been significantly updated since the page was first made. No proof that the article falls under WP:SIGCOV; no sources are listed on the article, and even Polish Wikipedia has only one secondary source. I would additionally argue that the article falls under WP:A1. Mupper-san (talk) 04:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Stuart Millheiser

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Article relies primarily on primary, self-published, and non-independent sources. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 04:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Become the Other

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Studio album which does not make the case for notability. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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How does it not make the case for notability? DanielTheMusicMaster (talk) 16:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DanielTheMusicMaster Is this a vote? If so, please update your comment with a vote like Delete, Weak delete, Neutral, Weak keep, or Keep. If it is not, please add Comment or {{Comment}} which produces the following:

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Hope this makes sense! TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 03:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I think I understand now. DanielTheMusicMaster (talk) 17:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I think the album warrants an article, seeing as how it was included on the Official Charts. DanielTheMusicMaster (talk) 17:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Floor's Too Far Away

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Non-notable studio album; does not make the case for inclusion with listed sources; could be merged in band's page in part. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Why does it not make sense? DanielTheMusicMaster (talk) 16:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, typed a little fast there. What I meant to say was: Why does it not make the case? DanielTheMusicMaster (talk) 16:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The album has been mentioned in official publications. DanielTheMusicMaster (talk) 20:31, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Edward J. Megarr

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Relies entirely on military journals and newsletters like the Marine Corps Gazette. Not sure if we should consider these independent enough to meet WP:SIGCOV (in the same way that we usually don't count trade journals and magazines in other fields). Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 04:12, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep - a quick gsearchs seems to show a few other hits, and a three-star general is almost absolutely notable. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:47, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete you'd presume a Major general would be notable, but there aren't enough WP:RS to support that presumption, so fails WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 05:38, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

George Meehan

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None of the sources mention the subject other than in credit lists. This does not constitute significant coverage. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 04:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Frenemies (podcast)

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WP:REDUNDANTFORK. Since Frenemies was only a series of episodes of the H3 Podcast, there is no reason for there to be a standalone article about it. This page could be redirected to H3 Podcast#Frenemies and Families, which was the consensus on the previous AfD. The discussion at Talk:Frenemies (podcast)#This was never a standalone podcast also provides some useful information. Badbluebus (talk) 04:03, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Dom har glömt

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The article fails WP:NSONG with no chart information, and it fails WP:GNG with no significant descriptions of the song in the literature. The supplied citations are useless: four of the five are about other things, and the fifth is a Discogs.com link that merely proves the existence of the single. Discogs cannot be cited per WP:ALBUMAVOID, and it certainly does not establish notability. Binksternet (talk) 03:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Elva kvinnor i ett hus as standard WP:ATD. No evidence of meeting WP:NSONG. Jfire (talk) 05:16, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Max McCalman

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Article is cited entirely to primary and self-published sources. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 03:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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James McLain

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This is (probably) a 15-year-old hoax, as brought to my attention by Bearian. All the creator's edits were to this page. There is nothing in any book source that is not a Wikipedia mirror, there is nothing in any primary source news article, there is nothing that is anywhere except sources recycling Wikipedia. There are 0-mentions in RS for this name or his supposed old name the whole story about the name change reads very hoaxy. All of it reads very hoaxy, anyone who had brushed shoulders with this many notable people would have been mentioned in RS, or at least primary source news! This reads like someone's mobster OC. If it is not a hoax, it is a very very obscure man who does not pass our notability guidelines. But I am fairly certain it is a hoax. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nomination - whether a hoax or just a criminal who never saw significant coverage, this shouldn't remain here. I looked online and found nothing. Bearian (talk) 03:47, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maddelynn Hatter

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Article relies on blogs, self-published podcasts, and non-independent sources. Fails WP:SIGCOV. Additionally, fails WP:BLP1E as everything revolves around competing on a television show.4meter4 (talk) 03:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did not expand this redirect, but I removed the bad sources and added a few more sources + claims to the article. I'd say there's probably enough coverage to stitch together a decent biography about her early life, career, and personal life, but IF the subject is deemed not notable then please just redirect the page to The Boulet Brothers' Dragula season 3. The page serves a purpose and there's no need to delete the article history. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep based on the additional text that's recently been added. I think there's room to expand this. If there's insufficient support for keep, I would also settle for a merge with the Dragula article. Lewisguile (talk) 08:15, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tabish Khan (art critic)

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Biography of an art critic that fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO. Sources in article are limited to WP:PRIMARYSOURCE WP:INTERVIEWS, WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS in media coverage of other topics, primary source bios and other non-independent sources. WP:BEFORE search turns up lots of his own writing but no independent WP:SIGCOV to establish notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - the writer is known within the contemporary art scene in the UK and is currently active suggesting there may be more additions to the page in future. While I agree that searching for the author turns up lots of his own writing, a look at other art critics, writers and journalists with Wikipedia entries returns similar results. In terms of independent coverage, this article does include links to notable outlets that have sought his views on art stories and artworks. Suggestions for improvement rather than deletion may be a better course of action. Londoneditor284 (talk) 21:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC) — Londoneditor284 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Keep these are good points. It would be a diservice to Wikipedia if well-known critics were expunged Likeabutterfly (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - although this person is mostly only known within the contemporary British art scene, they have contributed numerous articles, interviews, and features in multiple outlets and have been quoted in many sources (as can be seen from the citations). They are clearly significant enough within their own field to warrant keeping this article. Any suggestions to improve the article would be welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.45.218.212 (talk) 12:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC) — 80.45.218.212 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
WP:SOCKSTRIKE. Izno (talk) 22:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Quotations in sources are not enough to demonstrate notability (except in a limited case for certain academics), and authoring articles isn't either. What SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources can you offer? Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Let me do some digging and get back to you. The nature of the subject (someone who writes about other people's artwork for a living) makes it difficult by definition to have many SIGCOV sources. I feel this should be taken into account? 80.45.218.212 (talk) 16:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you feel this way, that's a great discussion topic for WP:VILLAGEPUMP, not for a discussion where we can't change policy. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ Could Dclemens1971 help in finding any better sources for this person/article? I've looked at pages for other critics too but can't seem to see how they fit the criteria if we are super-strict with SIGCOV Likeabutterfly (talk) 21:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC) (striking duplicate vote. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC))[reply]
Please strike your second !vote; editors are only allowed one !vote in an AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, the entire point of the WP:BEFORE search (which I did) was to find qualifying sources, and I didn't find them. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"[A] search turns up lots of his own writing but no independent [sources]" - isn't this exactly what we should expect though? Likeabutterfly (talk) 21:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's what we should expect from a person who's not notable, I suppose. And as already mentioned, please strike through your duplicative !vote. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As per the nomination. Taabii (talk) 10:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thomas F. O'Neill

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The one source that is used is literally just a filmography listing. It doesn't have anything to say about the subject's work. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 03:04, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Steven O'Mahoney-Schwartz

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Relies entirely on primary and non-independent sources. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 03:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Malaysian Association of Private Colleges and Universities

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Has been tagged with being un-notable for seven years, without improvement. I could not find independent or secondary sources. LR.127 (talk) 03:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Does not appear to meet WP:NLIST ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 03:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no third party coverage of this association. LibStar (talk) 04:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Richard O'Connell (racehorse trainer)

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The cited sources either don't mention the subject at all or only in passing. They don't verify the content in the article. Perhaps there was link rot of some kind? Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 02:54, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Cloud engineering

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Page on a very uncommon to non-existent discipline. It has been tagged for notability for many years, and just left. No attempt has been made to keep it current and encyclopedic, the main page cloud computing is far more current and useful. Best to remove, there is no useful information here we should be providing readers. This topic is really part of computer science & engineering. Ldm1954 (talk) 02:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Ligaturama (talk) 08:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Pustilnik

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Relies entirely on primary sources. Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 02:45, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Akin Ogunbiyi

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Fails the notability guideline for politicians and does not pass WP:GNG or WP:BASIC. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 02:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete A lack of reliable online sources to establish him as a notable businessman and simply a candidate for a position.Southati (talk) 07:54, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln Lambert

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Can't find WP:SIGCOV; at best can only find passing mentions. seefooddiet (talk) 02:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Much of the refs didn't actually support claims given in the article; I just gave it a scrub. The rest of the articles have barely any mention of him; just a namedrop. A little sus. seefooddiet (talk) 02:32, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spencer Ross

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. The one source used only has one sentence of coverage of the subject.4meter4 (talk) 01:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Added two in-depth sources which should help to sort things out. With how much sports media there is in and around New York, you had to know there'd be something. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Katherina Roshana

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Fails WP:BLP1E. Only known for winning a beauty pageant.4meter4 (talk) 01:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Joseph Rodriguez (photographer)

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. The New York magazine piece is a great feature of his photographs but there isn't much prose about the subject accompanying the photos. The other source is the subject's website. There's not enough indepth coverage here to justify an article.4meter4 (talk) 01:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of American films of 2028

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This seems way WP:TOOSOON to be useful for the foreseeable future to be draftified. Only one item is even titled. -1ctinus📝🗨 01:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:TOOSOON; can be re-created when we have more than two press-release-parroting sources. (And I will never understand why some editors have to be the first to create an article about a subject for which literally nothing is known yet).WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:30, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The page should be kept since it was multiple release dates announced by the studios, as oppose to 2029 onwards. KingArti (talk) 18:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:HAMMER. 3/4 films listed have no name. "Hammer" is just an essay, but so commonly cited at AfD that it might as well be a guideline. Bearian (talk) 03:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Alex Lobb

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A before search shows nothing to pass GNG or SPORTBASIC. Kline • talk • contribs 01:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Aleksei Kulashko

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No changes have been made since the previous deletion and doing a before search reveals nothing passing GNG or SPORTBASIC. Kline • talk • contribs 01:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anne Sofie Madsen

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Borderline notability, subject requests deletion,Ticket:2024091410007147. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 00:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Do you have any details on the VRT request, CaptainEek? Any reason for why they would be against the article? Since nothing in it seems negative. And I would not call her borderline notable, since she's one of the biggest names in fashion. It's just that the coverage of her is almost entirely not in English. But outside of most every fashion magazine in the world covering her, she also receives mainstream coverage from newspapers of record. For example:

So I'd really like some more information on this one before making a decision. Because I'm currently leaning toward too notable and well known for WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE to matter. Silver seren^C 01:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Silver seren The issue seems to be one of inaccuracy and the sources being out of date; most of them are over a decade old. I made a few corrections to the article, but her overall concern is that the article is now so out of date with her resume that potential employers google her and think her CV is fake because her more recent achievements are not on her Wikipedia. I think this is a problem we often encounter with BLP's: their article is frozen in time at a point when they had coverage, and doesn't reflect who they are now, but there isn't enough new coverage to update with. A problem that grows as Wikipedia reaches the 25 year mark. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 01:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That seems like an argument for expansion, not for deletion. Unless we're going to be deleting a ton of articles for being out of date. There's sources available. There's this from Vogue on her Tokyo 2017 collection. There's this from Women's Wear Daily on her Paris 2018 collection. There's this from Woman.dk and this from Fashion Forum about her 2021 collection collaboration with Lulu Kaalund. I got all that from just a quick Google search without even knowing anything about how to search for Danish, French, or Japanese sources. Silver seren^C 01:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the VRT agent for that ticket, and CaptainEek's characterization is correct. She has provided only vague objections about things being incorrect, nothing specific. I have asked her to use WP:Edit Request Wizard to identify specific things to fix on the talk page, but she seems to want a VRT agent to do the research and fix things for her. The creator of the article even invites people to contact her directly and includes her email on her user page, but the article subject has not engaged with her. Yes, the subject of the article wants it deleted because she isn't famous, but the sources already cited suggest she's clearly notable, which isn't the same thing as fame. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So the argument on her end is more of the "not a celebrity level fame", rather than the "rather well known designer in a field level fame" that she actually is, it seems. I still think this is fully fixable in the article, though it would definitely be helpful if she was willing to work with us on that. Since I'm sure she's more personally aware of the fashion news sources covering her more recent work than any of us are. Silver seren^C 02:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I have received an email from the subject and have asked for further details. At this stage, I am not sure if she would prefer deletion or correction.--Ipigott (talk) 09:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion would be an option if she was borderline notable or the article was a hit job, but neither case applies here. The notability seems pretty clear, and the article isn't negative either. If an article about a notable subject is deleted, someone else will eventually come along and write another article. Improvement is really the best past forward. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: She is a notable fashion designer and has coverage in reliable sources such as Vogue. Moopaz (talk) 23:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Fashion deigner covered by Vogue and other sources listed above. I added the "Update" template to the top of the article, saying "Please help update this article to reflect recent events ..." So, if "potential employers google her" and find this article, they will be greeted with a note making clear the article does not reflect recent events. I hope that helps. Asparagusstar (talk) 03:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: before I would go along with a keep, I would like to see the sources found incorporated into this article. This is my personal opinion, and I've raised it before in other AfDs. Bearian (talk) 04:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Edd Gould

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I've been pondering on nominating this for AfD, and I've finally come to the conclusion that this article is not eligible for standalone notability and should either be deleted or merged into Eddsworld (if that article is even notable at this point with such sketchy sourcing). A WP:BEFORE search brings up obituary-style sources and passing mentions in articles. 💽 LunaEclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ ^{(CALL ME IF YOU GET LOST)} 01:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nancy Raffa

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. Obviously a very accomplished woman, but unfortunately I was unable to locate any independent RS from a reliable publisher. Tulsa Ballet's blog is a self published source and the ABT is her employer. Everything I could find only mentioned her in passing.4meter4 (talk) 01:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I found multiple articles covering Raffa's work in reliable sources, including the New York Times^[1] and the Boston Globe.^[2] This story in a Kentucky newspaper is additional coverage.^[3] I put these citations, and more, into the article. DaffodilOcean (talk) 07:28, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawing and speedy keep. @ DaffodilOcean You are a gem. Thank you so much for these and improving the article.4meter4 (talk) 08:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Dunning, Jennifer (1985-01-20). "THIS DANCE COMPETITION DOES MORE THAN GIVE PRIZES". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2025-01-10.
^ Temin, Christine (5 November 1981). "THE MAKING OF A BALLET STAR; AT 17, NANCY RAFFA LEARNS THAT SUCCESS BRINGS MIXED BLESSINGS". Boston Globe (pre-1997 Fulltext) ; Boston, Mass. p. 1 – via Proquest.
^ Winer, Linda (1980-11-23). "Overworked, underpaid ballet dancers ask whether it's worth it". The Lexington Herald. p. 80. Retrieved 2025-01-10.

Brazilian phonk

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Expired then contested PROD. Concern was: The article's text is overly promotional and almost all claims failed verification from cited sources. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Phonk#Subgenres – As WP:ATD. The rhythm is not notable for its own article, but it can be mentioned in the aforementioned section. Svartner (talk) 07:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Dunning, Jennifer (1985-01-20). "THIS DANCE COMPETITION DOES MORE THAN GIVE PRIZES". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2025-01-10.

[2] Temin, Christine (5 November 1981). "THE MAKING OF A BALLET STAR; AT 17, NANCY RAFFA LEARNS THAT SUCCESS BRINGS MIXED BLESSINGS". Boston Globe (pre-1997 Fulltext) ; Boston, Mass. p. 1 – via Proquest.

[3] Winer, Linda (1980-11-23). "Overworked, underpaid ballet dancers ask whether it's worth it". The Lexington Herald. p. 80. Retrieved 2025-01-10.

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