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1001

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... is how many articles we now have in the category Category:Lichen genera, meaning there's only about 50 left to complete all of them! I'll probably make a "To-do" link to a progress page with a table containing the rest of the redlinks. Esculenta (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

... 1010 ... Esculenta (talk) 02:11, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... 1020 ... Esculenta (talk) 23:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now at 1023 genera. After compiling the remaining redlinked genera at Outline of lichens, as well as undocumented genus redlinks from several higher taxa articles (including a couple of family article updates I'm working on but have not yet published), I've made a list of the remaining redlinks here. Now I haven't yet verified that these are all lichen genera with certainty (some of them might be genera of lichenicolous fungi), but I think it's clear that the number of lichen genera has risen to about 1100 (rather than my guess of about 1050) since Lücking et al. published their lichen taxa compilation and update in 2016/2017. More and more of the remaining genera are "difficult" for whatever reason, e.g. their taxonomic validity is not universally agreed on by the main sources used for taxonomy in this project. Mostly I've been avoiding creating these in favour of the "easier" ones, but now that I have a page, I'll start adding notes about the difficult genera and where the taxonomic disagreements are. Esculenta (talk) 18:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... 1030 ... Esculenta (talk) 18:16, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... 1040 ... Esculenta (talk) 01:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... 1050 ... with about 75 redlinks still to investigate. Esculenta (talk) 01:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... 1060 ... Esculenta (talk) 02:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... 1070 ... Esculenta (talk) 19:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... 1080 ... Esculenta (talk) 18:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 2024 Outline of Fungi and fungus-like taxa

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The 2024 update of this now apparently biennial publication was published a few months ago (see "Resources" tab). The latest version has a whopping 500+ authors! However (imho), this is not to be taken as an authoritative publication about fungal classification; I checked several lichen families (that I consider reasonably up-to-date here) and this pub has missing genera all over the place, with no explanations as to why they're not included. I think some of the authors responsible for the lichen taxa classification are also co-authors on the previous contentious "temporal phylogenetic" reclassification of several lichen genera, hence it would seem they support their version of how things should be classified, despite recorded objections in the lichenological literature. Esculenta (talk) 21:17, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Phooey. It's never easy, is it! Too bad all these taxonomists never seem to agree on things... MeegsC (talk) 22:13, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, at least the publication's already been useful serving as a secondary source for two new genera articles I was waiting to publish ... progress inches forward. Esculenta (talk) 19:56, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Updates

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So a couple of days ago I sent Paul Kirk (Index Fungorum curator) a lengthy list of corrections and clarifications I had been collecting for almost two years. Almost all of the corrections having to do with incorrect authorities, spelling corrections, bibliographic corrections, and adding additional/correcting synonymy were accepted and have now been incorporated into the database. However, none of the clarifications I had requested about generic placement and status issues were addressed (see subsection "Pending" for some of them I asked about). I suppose this isn't too surprising, as IF is a nomenclatural authority, not a classification authority. The consequence is that these "difficult" genera will remain that way until the taxonomists sort it amongst themselves. As it stands now, there's 10 genera I don't really know what to do with, and another 57 genus redlinks still to be investigated/written (the number keeps growing as new genera are published!) Esculenta (talk) 17:35, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As you say, progress inching forward. Unfortunately, there's not much we can do with some of them until taxonomists wrestle things out. The nature of the beast, I suppose! You're doing an excellent job of almost single-handedly driving things forward. MeegsC (talk) 13:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think some taxonomists might have been wrestling in the past couple of weeks, because at least one of the confusing status genera I had enquired about, Straminella, is now listed as accepted by IF! Article coming soon ... Esculenta (talk) 19:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flora of Lichenicolous Fungi

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Flora of Lichenicolous Fungi, a two-volume set, was published this year by the Scientific Research Center. The cost for the hardcopy versions is €40 each, or €93.25 for both. Or you can download them for free as PDFs! See here for details. MeegsC (talk) 13:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good news! I was sort of waiting for the second volume to come out before a final push to get lichenicolous fungus to GA. Esculenta (talk) 19:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Christmas prezzies!

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I got Paul Whelan's two volume set "Lichens of Ireland and Great Britain" for Christmas. Woohoo! Gorgeous books. Should come in handy. 😁 MeegsC (talk) 16:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't heard of this release, and had to make sure this wasn't the same as "The Lichens of Great Britain and Ireland" (2009); since it isn't, I've ordered it. Seems to be a massive expansion on his previous The Lichens of Ireland: An Illustrated Introduction to Over 250 Species (2012). Thanks for the heads-up! Esculenta (talk) 15:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]